Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Arab–Israeli conflict

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was:  delete. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 04:28, 4 September 2019 (UTC)

Portal:Arab–Israeli conflict


Stillborn portal. Portal was built in March/April 2011 by a user whose only prior edits were two edits in article space. This user abandoned his account and the portal mere weeks later.

English was apparently not this guy's strong suit. Portal:Arab–Israeli conflict/Protagonists lists the parties involved in the conflict as "protagonists." Presumably they meant "belligerents". There is another ambiguous section called Portal:Arab–Israeli conflict/Diverse, which apparently is supposed to be a catch-all.

There are 10 selected articles created in April 2011. Portal:Arab–Israeli conflict/Selected article/8 was automated in May 2018. However only Portal:Arab–Israeli conflict/Selected article/5 is in rotation.

There is another redundant "Article of the month" with two articles from 2011 in rotation (for some reason only the entry on Hamas is showing up for me).

There are five never-updated selected bios from 2011, however only Portal:Arab–Israeli conflict/Selected article/5 is in rotation.

There is yet another redundant "Biography of the month" updated for the first and last time in April 2013. One out of two entries in the archive have been automated, however this was, again, wasted effort as the entries are not in the rotation.

There are a few other sections further down the portal that may have been updated more recently. As I hinted at in the first part of my MfD, it is questionable to me whether these sections add any value to the portal or even whether they are any accurate. Mark Schierbecker (talk) 03:45, 27 August 2019 (UTC) There is another problem with this portal. The topic of this portal is subject to ArbCom discretionary sanctions, because editing in this area is contentious. ArbCom discretionary sanctions are imposed on subject areas that have excessive battleground editing, typically because the subject areas are about areas of the Earth that have been real battlegrounds. Of all the areas that are subject to discretionary sanctions, the Arab-Israeli conflicts have had the most ArbCom cases. ArbCom discretionary sanctions impose draconian sanctions when draconian sanctions are needed due to POV-pushing, because neutral point of view, while required, is extremely difficult, typically because of nationalism. Many editors are likely to be either pro-Israeli or pro-Arab, simply because. It is difficult enough to have balanced articles on the Arab-Israeli conflict, and we need the articles, because the articles are how Wikipedia presents knowledge to its readers. A portal (if known to editors) is an unnecessary attraction for battleground editing. It is perhaps fortunate that the portal has not been discovered much and so hasn't started any Wikipedia wars yet. Delete it to reduce the likelihood of yet another ArbCom case. Robert McClenon (talk) 22:31, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Far too narrow a topic to merit a portal of its own. bd2412  T 03:50, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per the nom. This portal has been abandoned for over eight years, save for a few one-off updates by passing editors. Since 2006, the lead of WP:POG has said "Do not expect other editors to maintain a portal you create" ... and this one has not been maintained by Bilal66, who created it, dumped it, and left Wikipedia in about two weeks. It also clearly fails WP:POG's requirement that portals should be about subjects broad enough to attract large numbers of readers and maintainers. This decrepit portal has had over eight years of no steady maintainers and it had an abysmal 8 views per day from January 1 to June 30 2019 (while the head article Arab–Israeli conflict had 1,049 views per day in the same period). Portals stand or fall on their merits in the now, not what could someday hypothetically happen with them, and this one falls flat. I oppose re-creation, as over eight years of hard evidence shows the Arab–Israeli conflict is not a broad enough topic to attract readers and maintainers. Newshunter12 (talk) 04:43, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - per nom.GreyShark (dibra) 10:11, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete – I concur with the analyses by User:Mark Schierbecker and User:Newshunter12, in particular as to low viewing and no maintenance. The originator came to Wikipedia, created the portal, and went away.  The portal appears to have 10 articles and 5 biographies, never updated, but the biographies are duplicated in the articles (and never updated).
 * Note to closing admin. I don't want in any way to prejudge the outcome ... but if you close this discussion as delete, please can you not remove the backlinks?  I have an AWB setup which allows me to easily replace them with links to the next most specific portal(s) (in this case Portal:Israel, Portal:Palestine and Portal:War), without creating duplicate entries. --  Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 16:17, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.