Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Artsakh

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was:  delete. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 23:00, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Portal:Artsakh


Abandoned micro-portal on a narrow topic.

The Republic of Artsakh is a de facto independent country in the South Caucasus that is internationally recognized as part of Azerbaijan. It has a population of about 150,000.

This is an old-style manual portal, created in 2017 by @Harut111. Its list of subpages at Special:PrefixIndex/Portal:Artsakh shows one selected article, 6 selected pictures, and a DYK page with one entry. It is therefore effectively a static page with rotating pictures, redundant to the head article Republic of Artsakh which with its navbox Template:Artsakh topics provides better navigation and a better overview of the topic.

So far as I can see, all the subpages were created shortly after the portal's creation, and remain unchanged since, apart from one (or maybe two minor edits) in total.

Category:Republic of Artsakh+subcats contains 1611 articles, which sounds promising at first glance. However, further analysis using AWB shows that only 271 of those articles are neither tagged as stubs nor assessed on the talk page as stubs. 81 of those pages are explicitly assessed as FA, GA, A, B, C or list-class, but while I not systematically checked the pages for relevance to a portal, and quick glance suggests a lot of those have limited relevance. I have placed the list of 81 articles at see WT:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Artsakh.

WP:POG says that portals should be about "broad subject areas, which are likely to attract large numbers of interested readers and portal maintainers". This portal clearly has not attracted maintainers, and in Jan–Feb 2019 in attracted only 3 pageviews per day, which is barely above the background noise of bots and webcrawlers. So I recommend just delete it. Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 11:05, 4 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete - Old abandoned draft of a portal, 15 subpages, created 2017-12-07 13:58:23 by User:Harut111. Not providing the navigation tool it should provide. Portal:Artsakh. Pldx1 (talk) 14:21, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment. This is far outside my editing expertise, but sounds like a potentially viable topic. However, are there PoV pushing problems here? Espresso Addict (talk) 14:47, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Good question, @EA. I didn't review it from any POV angle. However, any page on a topic such as this should be carefully monitored, because an unrecognised de facto state is the sort of highly controversial topic which sadly does repeatedly attract POV-pushers on Wikipedia. At least with a popular POV-magnet like Israel–Palestine, the two sides kinda balance each other out, so there is a lot of noise but few howlers go unchallenged ... whereas in a less internationally-scrutinised dispute such as this one, there is a much greater risk of low standards or even outright mischief going un-noticed and unchallenged for ages.
 * So I'd be very wary of allowing a portal on this sort of topic to remain unless there was some assurance of many eyes on both the portal and on any pages it transcludes or links to. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 19:11, 4 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete - This appears to be a non-portal portal about a non-country country. Robert McClenon (talk) 22:14, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete – Way too narrow; lack of subject matter. — JFG talk 00:16, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.