Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Ashura

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was: userfy, per request of creator Mhhossein. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 21:18, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

Portal:Ashura


Narrow topic, which fails the WP:POG requirement that portals should be about "broad subject areas, which are likely to attract large numbers of interested readers and portal maintainers".

Ashura is one 17 items listed in the navbox Template:Islamic holidays. I don't know Islam well enough to judge how significant it is, but it seems to me that it would be better to have a portal covering all the major Islamic holy days.

Notes: this an old-style manual portal, and not one of the new automated portals. Its subpages are listed at Special:PrefixIndex/Portal:Ashura: 2 Selected articles, 3 Selected biographies, and 6 selected pictures, and 1 DYK. The portal was created in 2015 by User:Mhhossein, who appears to be still active. Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:40, 4 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Comment. I note the existence of, say, Portal:Christmas as a comparator. is still active, perhaps they'd care to comment. A broadening of scope to cover all such holy observances would seem a plausible option here. (Another example I'd have liked to have tried the two-stage process on.) Espresso Addict (talk) 14:42, 4 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete. Ashura is not one among 17. Ashura is about the founding event of Shia Islam. A decent portal about this topic should made that clear to any passerby. What we have is only the draft of an portal, 24 subpages, -- created 2015-10-21 13:05:34 by User:Mhhossein, with maintainer= User:Mhhossein. All that has to be said on the topic is already portaled at Portal:Shia Islam --- and better stated at the corresponding articles. Portal:Ashura. Pldx1 (talk) 15:07, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment: Dear all, so much sorry for the delay and thanks for the ping. Although I think Ahsura is broad enough to ground a portal on, I don't object such a clean up. Since at the moment I don't have the time to work on it and think that much of the material can be used in Portal:Shia Islam. That said, would it be possible to have a draft of the Portal aimed at merging it with Portal:Shia Islam in future? --  M h hossein   talk 15:19, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the comment, @Mhhossein. Your proposed merge to Portal:Shia Islam sounds like a good solution.  I'd very happy to support userfication if it might help. --  Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 15:33, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for responding, . was investigating how easy it was to move multi-page portals without breaking them, perhaps she could comment. Espresso Addict (talk) 15:34, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
 * @Espresso Addict & @Mhhossein, yes I created a whimsical portal for the sole purpose of seeing what happened when it moved. As I expected, the only item which broke on a move to a difft title in portalspace was an archive page.  And I knew about that issue beforehand, so I had modified the other archive page to a move-proof format, and as expected it survived the move.  I will now try moving it to userspace, and see what happens. --  Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 16:39, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
 * OK, my experimental Portal:Ballyporeen survived its first move to Portal:Incubator — Ballyporeen and its second move o User:BrownHairedGirl/Incubator — Ballyporeen.
 * So I see no problem in userfying this one if @Mhhossein wants. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 17:22, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
 * BrownHairedGirl: Thanks for putting time on this and congratulations for the successful experimental! Please userify the portal. Thank you again. -- M h hossein   talk 18:28, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.