Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Austria-Hungary

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was: Delete. — xaosflux  Talk 17:51, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

Portal:Austria-Hungary


Mini-portal abandoned since 2006, about Austria-Hungary, a constitutional monarchy in Central and Eastern Europe between 1867 and 1918.

Created in May 2006‎ by, who last edited in 2017, and last made a portsalspace edit in May 2006

It's just a static page with some boxes, whose contents have been almost unchanged in 13 years. Special:PrefixIndex/Portal:Austria-Hungary shows:
 * Portal:Austria-Hungary/Did you know, last new addition in 2009
 * Portal:Austria-Hungary/Featured article, same topic since it was created in 2006
 * Portal:Austria-Hungary/Featured bio, same topic since it was created in 2006
 * Portal:Austria-Hungary/Featured person,, same topic since it was created in 2006
 * Portal:Austria-Hungary/Featured picture, image last changed in 2011

WP:POG says that unless automated, the content selection should be updated monthly, or preferably weekly. Even on a monthly cycle, this pseudo-portal has missed over 150 consecutive updates.

Austria-Hungary was a major European power, so in theory this a broad topic. But in practice, it doesn't meet the WP:POG requirement that portals should be about "broad subject areas, which are likely to attract large numbers of interested readers and portal maintainers". This has not attracted maintainers, and in Jan–Feb 2019 got only 10 pageviews per day.

Per WP:PORTAL, "Portals serve as enhanced 'Main Pages' for specific broad subjects". But this is massively less useful in every respect than the head article Austria-Hungary.

It is time to stop wasting the time of readers by luring them to this abandoned draft, and time to drop the dream that this abandoned relic will some day magically attract magical editors who will want to resurrect it. If any editor does want to build a real portal, they will be far better off without this relic and its ancient content-forked subpages; instead they should build a modern portal without content-forked sub-pages. Several different styles are avilable, e.g. Portal:Mecklenburg-Vorpommern or Portal:Geophysics.

So I propose that this portal and its sub-pages be deleted per WP:TNT, without prejudice to recreating a curated portal in accordance with whatever criteria the community may have agreed at that time. Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:10, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - I am not sure whether this qualifies as a broad subject area, because former empires should be considered both in terms of their extent in time and their extent in space. This was neither as large nor as long-lived as the Umayyad Caliphate or the British Empire.  That question doesn't need to be answered, because this portal has not attracted either interested readers or portal maintainers (and most portals are like this one in doing neither).  The head article attracted 3,724 daily page views as opposed to the 10 daily page views for the portal.  Whether this is a sufficiently broad area can be decided against future guidelines when there is a new portal design proposed.  Robert McClenon (talk) 18:16, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete as failing breadth of subject under WP:POG. It is of course a judgement call, but two inputs to my judgement are: Portal:British Empire has a dedicated WikiProject and over 10 thousand articles in scope; this portal has a subproject and 674 articles in scope. UnitedStatesian (talk)
 * Delete: a static, abandoned portal fails its purpose. No prejudice against recreation should a maintainer be interested in actively curating it, as it may be broad enough.    SITH   (talk)   11:44, 17 May 2019 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.