Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Blues harmonica




 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was userfy. The discussion below reflects a general consensus that this portal is too narrow to be viable, but that a Portal:Blues would be perfectly acceptable. There's some support for a direct move, but that argument has been rebutted by Cunard. It is one of those times when one wishes in vain that WP:AI accepts portals as well, but failing that, userfication seems to be the best choice here. Tim Song (talk) 03:40, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

Portal:Blues harmonica
I don't think there is all too much to cover in this portal, and it covers more about the instrument itself rather than content relating to it. Speedy was declined as there was some work being done on it then--I have not seen anything for a week, and it is still underpopulated to me.  fetch  comms  ☛ 01:47, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment Rather narrow scope for a portal; might I suggest retooling and expanding the scope to Blues in general? A Stop at Willoughby (talk) 05:19, 7 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Comment Please don't delete us.  We are still working on it.  We are having a harder time figuring out wiki than we thought we would.  There is a lot of ground to cover just in blues harmonica and the information is scattered all over the web. Nacoran (talk) 21:00, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete Overly narrow portal; just how many articles would fit here anyway? Best to lump 'em in the blues portal. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 19:31, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Restart as an overall blues portal since there doesn't seem to be one for just blues. I still don't like portals, but if we insist on having them, they should be as wide scope as possible. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 21:49, 10 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Comment There are dozens of famous blues harp players.  We've already added links to a lot of them.  We also want to link to harmonica content, how to's on techniques and ways to customize harmonicas and harmonica amplification.  We are just having a problem with how to lay out the pages.  I posted a sound sample to one of our links and it was promptly deleted.  We are working on longer format articles, but since we got deleted when we tried to add information in a piecemeal way we are trying to develop a more substantial update. 67.248.189.190 (talk) 18:41, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Rename to expand scope per A Stop at Willoughby. --  SPhilbrick  T  19:54, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment I'm fine with a renaming to general blues, but I think there's a misunderstanding--portals are meant to show off already featured content on Wikipedia, like featured articles, etc., not on restoration, how-tos, customization, etc. Wikipedia is not a how-to guide, and that sort of content should be in the blues harmonica article if it were encyclopedic. And one other note, it seems that this portal's creators are a group, although at this time none of them seem to have placed and actual !vote here.  fetch  comms  ☛ 00:46, 14 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Comment Fetchcomms- I'm one of the people working on the portal. I thought I made that clear.  I'm for keeping it, although I'm still figuring out this whole wiki editing thing.  Over the years mostly I've just edited a couple grammar mistakes I've seen while browsing Wikipedia.  This is my first attempt at something more substantial.  Yes, there are a group of us.  We are part of an active harmonica forum that focuses on blues, although diatonic harmonica is probably more important to our focus than specifically blues.  Is there a more formal vote or does posting here count?  There is various information on Wikipedia about harmonica and a lot of blues harmonica players.  I've tried to link it as I get it.  I have more to put up, but this deletion hanging over our head is really putting a dent in our group moral.67.248.160.52 (talk) 03:53, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
 * My only issue is that this portal is not broad enough in scope. A portal, as I said, is used to showcase already featured content--how many blues harmonica articles are either FA, GA, etc.? I'm fine for making a one big blues article, because there are many more articles fitting in that category. However, the portal is right now mainly about the blues harmonica itself--that should go into the article about blues harmonicas, not this portal. Take for example, this one, which I have worked on. It focuses on various bits of recognized content relating to the subject, not just talking about various aspects of his life.  fetch  comms  ☛ 17:07, 15 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Userfy Having reviewed the portal's contents, I do not see how it can be easily retooled to discuss the blues genre in general. The portal focuses on Blues harmonica, with no other information about other blues topics. As such, if editors wish to start a new portal for blues music at Portal:Blues, it would be best to start over. I propose a userfication of this material to either User:Nacoran/Portal:Blues harmonica or User:Praefect/Portal:Blues harmonica to retain the history/content for the use of the two main contributors. Cunard (talk) 08:03, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
 * If the closing admin chooses to userfy this content, please also userfy the subpages of this portal, which can be seen at Special:PrefixIndex/Portal:Blues harmonica. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 08:05, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.