Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Cannabis (2nd nomination)

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) DannyS712 (talk) 05:42, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

Portal:Cannabis


The only portal on Portal:Contents/Portals under the category tree Recreation and Entertainment:Recreational drugs which is a dubious placement for something that remains illegal and even subject to the death penalty if you sell it in some countries. Listing an often illegal drug right above football and baseball?

This portal also demonstrates the folly of automatically pulling content from DYK. "... that last month, four members of the U.S. House of Representatives formed the Congressional Cannabis Caucus?" No, I did not know that and it's not true because the Caucus formed in Feb 2017, two years ago. Since the carefully curated DYK content is displayed for a limited time and often carefully timed for selected dates, it was not designed for portals.

The autopulled In the News section is about El Chapo which is kind of related to pot, though that is pretty far down the list of what he is famous for. I suspect this is based on some tagging or categorization. Putting El Chapo story so prominently in the cannabis article would be immediately reverted on the basis it is WP:UNDUE or WP:TRIVIA but on a portal someone else's category tagging makes a totally unknown to them editorial decision on a portal.

One's personal feelings about this topic should have no bearing on the decision about how best to present it - and the best way to present it is on a human written and human reviewed series of pages called articles - the things that made Wikipedia the go to source of general knowledge in the world. Legacypac (talk) 17:18, 28 February 2019 (UTC)


 * What on earth? Strong keep. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:27, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Agree with Another Believer, Strong keep.  Rob van  vee  17:39, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Revert to this version, which is the perfectly fine version that existed before the undiscussed "improvement" caused all the problems identified in the nomination.  Baby, bathwater, all that.  The improperly speedy deleted pages Portal:Cannabis/Categories and Portal:Cannabis/WikiProjects would also be need to be restored.  How it's displayed on Portal:Contents/Portals can be fixed by editing.  UnitedStatesian (talk) 17:44, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment If kept, the main article for this portal should probably be cannabis (drug), although it has been Cannabis since the portal was created in 2006 (I also think cannabis should be a disambiguation page, as it attracts a large number of link that intend the drug, but that's a different discussion). Plantdrew (talk) 19:24, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep... but retore user generated version was originally a portal with useful or interesting articlestuff prior to convertion.--Moxy (talk) 22:51, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep - This one predates the plague, and should not be considered contaminated by the plague. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:31, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep This portal has a daily average of 77 views; it's clearly providing value to WP users and is within policy. The nom's mention of illegality in some jurisdictions is a non sequitur as far as I know and subject to interpretation: cannabis is legal across the United States as hemp and even cannabis (drug) is legal in the capital city. ☆ Bri (talk) 16:07, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep, grandfathered in as a long-functioning portal which hosts a topic that has a considerable, continuing, and field-varied academic body of research investigating its both proven and alleged multi-purpose benefits, as well as a topic with widespread encyclopedic interest. Randy Kryn (talk) 17:20, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep, high quality portal. The reasons given amount to being WP:BOLD, rather than delete.-- Auric   talk  12:53, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.