Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Card games

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was:  delete. Per author request Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 11:41, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

Portal:Card games


A navbox-cloned automated portal, redundant to its components.

Created in August 2018‎ by.

This is one of the last few dozen remaining fully-automated portals, out of over 4,000 created by @The Transhumanist (TTH) and others. It draws its "selected articles" list solely from 2 navboxes:


 * Template:Trick-taking card games
 * Template:French deck card games

It draws its "selected images" list solely from the nn articles:
 * Card games
 * French playing cards
 * Königrufen
 * Binokel
 * Bierkopf

Two newish features of the Wikimedia software means that the articles and navboxes offers all the functionality which portals like this set out to offer. Both features are available only to ordinary readers who are not logged in, but you can test them without logging out by right-clicking on a link, and the select "open in private window" (in Firefox) or "open in incognito window" (Chrome).
 * 1) mouseover: on any link, mouseover shows you the picture and the start of the lead.  So the preview-selected page-function of portals is redundant: something almost as good is available automatically on any navbox or other set of links.  Try it on any of the other pages listed above.
 * 2) automatic imagery galleries: clicking on an image brings up an image gallery of all the images on that page. It's full-screen, so it's actually much better than even a click-for-next image gallery on a portal.   Try it on Card games or French playing cards, or any of the other articles listed above.

Similar features have been available since 2015 to users of Wikipedia's Android app.

This redundancy has been belatedly acknowledged by TTH, who wrote at the start of this month New encyclopedia program features will likely eventually render most portals obsolete. For example, the pop-up feature of MediaWiki provides much the same functionality as excerpts in portals already, and there is also a slideshow feature to view all the images on the current page (just click on any image, and that activates the slideshow).

This may be seen as broad topic which could satisfy WP:POG ... So I propose that this portal be deleted per WP:TNT, without prejudice to recreating a curated portal in accordance with whatever criteria the community may have agreed at that time. Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:55, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete as the creator. This was an experiment to try out the automated features. I didn't like them. However, I do think it's a topic that is not just broad enough, but positively that lends itself to portal navigation and project work. The existing navboxes in this area are impractical and overlap but there are too many and they are too big to combine. A portal could do all that. Thanks for flagging up the new features BTW. Bermicourt (talk) 14:43, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.