Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Christianity in China

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was:  delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:43, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

Portal:Christianity in China


Abandoned mini-portal on the topic of Christianity in China. Redundant to the head article and its navbox Template:Christianity and China.

Created in April 2008‎ by.

It consist of four boxes: "Did you know", "Selected article" and "Selected biography", and a "Selected images" box. The list of images is automatoically drawn from the head article Portal:Christianity in China, so it is redundant see explanation below.

The subpages which fill the fiest 3 boxes are listed at Special:PrefixIndex/Portal:Christianity in China:
 * Portal:Christianity in China/DYK/1 and Portal:Christianity in China/DYK/2. In each case, the last addition to the epage was in 2008. Per WP:DYK, "The DYK section showcases new or expanded articles that are selected through an informal review process. It is not a general trivia section" ... but these 11-year-old lists lose the newness, so its only effect is as a trivia section, contrary to WP:TRIVIA.
 * 2 article pages:
 * Portal:Christianity in China/Selected article/1. Same topic (Chinese Bible Translations ) since 2008
 * Portal:Christianity in China/Selected article/2. Same topic (Medical missions in China) since 2008
 * 4 biography pages:
 * Portal:Christianity in China/Selected biography/1. Same topic (John Sung) since 2008
 * Portal:Christianity in China/Selected biography/2. Same topic (Eric  Liddell) since 2008
 * Portal:Christianity in China/Selected biography/3. Same topic (Feng Yuxiang) since 2008
 * Portal:Christianity in China/Selected biography/4. Same topic (Wang Laiquan) since 2008

The portal offers a choice of only two at time out of a set of 6 articles. By contrast, the navbox Template:Christianity and China shows a total of 94 unique articles, all at the same without needing to refresh the page to see a new selection.

Two newish features of the Wikimedia software means that the article and navboxes offers all the functionality which portals like this set out to offer. Both features are available only to ordinary readers who are not logged in, but you can test them without logging out by right-clicking on a link, and the select "open in private window" (in Firefox) or "open in incognito window" (Chrome).
 * 1) mouseover: on any link, mouseover shows you the picture and the start of the lead.  So the preview-selected page-function of portals is redundant: something almost as good is available automatically on any navbox or other set of links.  Try it on e.g. Template:Indian Christianity or Template:Christianity and China.
 * 2) automatic imagery galleries: clicking on an image brings up an image gallery of all the images on that page. It's full-screen, so it's actually much better than  a click-for-next image gallery on a portal.   Try it by right-clicking on the link to the article Christianity in China.

Similar features have been available since 2015 to users of Wikipedia's Android app.

So the portal adds almost nothing to what is available on the head article. For example, the images shown in the portal are all drawn from the head article ... but as shown above, those same images are all available as a better slideshow built into the head article.

These new technologies have raised a high bar for a portal to climb if it wants to satisfy the WP:PORTAL principle that "Portals serve as enhanced 'Main Pages' for specific broad subjects". But it's not entirely impossible that some time in the future someone might both make a better portal, and maintain it (unlike this one) ...

So I propose that this portal and its sub-pages be deleted per WP:TNT, without prejudice to recreating a curated portal in accordance with whatever criteria the community may have agreed at that time. Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 03:28, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - The portal has 12 daily page views, as compared to 519 daily page views for the article. See also analysis by BHG.  Robert McClenon (talk) 22:59, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - Abandoned draft of a portal, 33 subpages, created 2008-04-04 14:49:39 by User:Brian0324. Never went alive. Nothing to keep. Portal:Christianity in China. Pldx1 (talk) 13:35, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.