Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Christianity in India

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was:  delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:43, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

Portal:Christianity in India


Abandoned mini-portal on Christianity in India. Redundant to the head article and its navbox Template:Christian denominations in India plus sidebar Template:Indian Christianity.

Created in February 2008‎ by.

41 sub-pages are listed at Special:PrefixIndex/Portal:Christianity in India, but most of them are formatting etc. The content is in:
 * 4 DYK pages, each at least 9 years old. Per WP:DYK, "The DYK section showcases new or expanded articles that are selected through an informal review process. It is not a general trivia section" ... but a 9-year-old list loses the newness, so its only effect is as a trivia section, contrary to WP:TRIVIA.
 * Portal:Christianity in India/DYK/1 has had no new additions since at least 2010
 * Portal:Christianity in India/DYK/2 has had no new additions since 2008
 * Portal:Christianity in India/DYK/3 has had no new additions since 2008
 * Portal:Christianity in India/DYK/4 has had no new additions since 2009
 * 3 selected articles, all unchanged since 2008/09:
 * Portal:Christianity in India/Selected article/1. Same topic (Malankara  Church) since 2008
 * Portal:Christianity in India/Selected article/2. Same topic (Saint Thomas Christians) since 2008
 * Portal:Christianity in India/Selected article/3. Same topic (Mangalorean Catholics) since 2008
 * 4 selected biographies, all unchanged since 2008/09:
 * Portal:Christianity in India/Selected biography/1. Same topic (Henry Martyn) since 2008
 * Portal:Christianity in India/Selected biography/2. Same topic (Mother Teresa) since 2008
 * Portal:Christianity in India/Selected biography/3. Same topic (Ravi Zacharias) since 2008
 * Portal:Christianity in India/Selected biography/4. Same topic (Thomas the Apostle ) since 2008

The portal offers a choice of only two at time out of 7 articles. By contrast, the navbox Template:Christian denominations in India plus sidebar Template:Indian Christianity show a total of 117 unique articles, all at the same without needing to refresh the page to see a new selection.

Two newish features of the Wikimedia software means that the article and navboxes offers all the functionality which portals like this set out to offer. Both features are available only to ordinary readers who are not logged in, but you can test them without logging out by right-clicking on a link, and the select "open in private window" (in Firefox) or "open in incognito window" (Chrome).
 * 1) mouseover: on any link, mouseover shows you the picture and the start of the lead.  So the preview-selected page-function of portals is redundant: something almost as good is available automatically on any navbox or other set of links.  Try it on e.g. Template:Indian Christianity or Template:Christian denominations in India.
 * 2) automatic imagery galleries: clicking on an image brings up an image gallery of all the images on that page. It's full-screen, so it's actually much better than  a click-for-next image gallery on a portal.   Try it by right-clicking on the article Christianity in India.

Similar features have been available since 2015 to users of Wikipedia's Android app.

So the portal adds almost nothing to what is available on the head article. For example, the images shown in the portal are all drawn from the head article ... but as shown above, those same images are all available as a better slideshow built into the head article.

These new technologies have raised a high bar for a portal to climb if it wants to satisfy the WP:PORTAL principle that "Portals serve as enhanced 'Main Pages' for specific broad subjects". But it's not entirely impossible that some time in the future someone might both make a better portal, and maintain it (unlike this one) ...

So I propose that this portal and its sub-pages be deleted per WP:TNT, without prejudice to recreating a curated portal in accordance with whatever criteria the community may have agreed at that time. Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 02:35, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - The portal has 15 page views daily, while the article has 1643 page views daily. See also analysis by BHG.  Robert McClenon (talk) 22:57, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - Abandoned draft of a portal, 40 subpages, created 2008-02-18 13:35:29 by User:Tinucherian. Never went alive. Nothing to keep. Portal:Christianity in India. Pldx1 (talk) 13:36, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.