Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Cognitive science

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was:  delete. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 03:53, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Portal:Cognitive science

 * Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:56, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:56, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

Another automated portal, redundant to its components. There is no non-automated version to restore

Created in September 2018‎ ‎ by @The Transhumanist (TTH)

This is one of the last few dozen remining fully-automated portals, out of over 4,000 created by @The Transhumanist (TTH) and others. It draws its "selected articles" lists solely from 2 articles:


 * "Selected general articles" drawn from Index of cognitive science articles
 * "Selected cognitive scientists" drawn from List of cognitive scientists

It draws its "selected images" list solely from the article Cognitive science.

Two newish features of the Wikimedia software means that the articles and navboxes offers all the functionality which portals like this set out to offer. Both features are available only to ordinary readers who are not logged in, but you can test them without logging out by right-clicking on a link, and the select "open in private window" (in Firefox) or "open in incognito window" (Chrome).
 * 1) mouseover: on any link, mouseover shows you the picture and the start of the lead.  So the preview-selected page-function of portals is redundant: something almost as good is available automatically on any navbox or other set of links.  Try it on any  of the  pages listed above.
 * 2) automatic imagery galleries: clicking on an image brings up an image gallery of all the images on that page. It's full-screen, so it's actually much better than even a click-for-next image gallery on a portal.   Try it on any of the other articles listed above.

Similar features have been available since 2015 to users of Wikipedia's Android app.

This redundancy has been belatedly acknowledged by TTH, who wrote at the start of this month New encyclopedia program features will likely eventually render most portals obsolete. For example, the pop-up feature of MediaWiki provides much the same functionality as excerpts in portals already, and there is also a slideshow feature to view all the images on the current page (just click on any image, and that activates the slideshow).

This may be seen as a broad topic which could satisfy WP:POG ... So I propose that this portal be deleted per WP:TNT, without prejudice to recreating a curated portal in accordance with whatever criteria the community may have agreed at that time. Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:40, 18 May 2019 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete with prejudice to re-creation. "Breadth" doesn't always mean readers.  The head article has only 770 daily pageviews, which is better than the 3 daily pageviews for the portal.  We need an article on the subject (and on a few million other subjects), and we have an article.  We don't need a portal.  Robert McClenon (talk) 18:28, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:56, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete the scope seems fine for a portal but I don't think there's any value in one which uses only automated selections from standalone lists. Note there are only two selected images, one of which is duplicated from earlier in the portal.  Hut 8.5  20:49, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - Automated portal,  0 subpages, created 2018-09-22 07:42:06 by User:TTH, useless navigation tool, redundant to the existing articles and navboxes, and of lower quality: Portal:Cognitive science. Pldx1 (talk) 11:19, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.