Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Delhi

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was:  delete. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 02:12, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Portal:Delhi


Abandoned mini-portal on India's National Capital Territory of Delhi.

Created in January 2009‎ by. The lead of WP:POG has said since late 2006 "Do not create a portal if you do not intend to assist in its regular maintenance", but that has not happened here: Amol.Gaitonde's last edit to this portal was in 2012.

Special:PrefixIndex/Portal:Delhi shows a modest collection of sub-pages:
 * 6 selected pictures
 * 9 selected panoramas
 * only 8 selected articles. The first six were created in 2009; the last two were added in 2011
 * Portal:Delhi/Did you know/1, last new addition in 2012. Per WP:DYK, "The DYK section showcases new or expanded articles that are selected through an informal review process. It is not a general trivia section" ... but this 7-year-old list loses the newness, so its only effect is as a trivia section, contrary to WP:TRIVIA.

Per WP:PORTAL, "Portals serve as enhanced 'Main Pages' for specific broad subjects". But this is massively less useful in every respect than the head article Delhi and its navbox Template:Delhi.

Two newish features of the Wikimedia software means that the article and navboxes offers all the functionality which portals like this set out to offer. Both features are available only to ordinary readers who are not logged in, but you can test them without logging out by right-clicking on a link, and the select "open in private window" (in Firefox) or "open in incognito window" (Chrome).
 * 1) mouseover: on any link, mouseover shows you the picture and the start of the lead.  So the preview-selected page-function of portals is redundant: something almost as good is available automatically on any navbox or other set of links.  Try it by right-clicking on this link to Template:Delhi, open in a private/incognito tab, and mouseover any link.
 * 2) automatic imagery galleries: clicking on an image brings up an image gallery of all the images on that page. It's full-screen, so it's actually much better than  a click-for-next image gallery on a portal.   Try it by right-clicking on this link to the article Delhi, open in a private/incognito tab, and click on any image to start the slideshow

Similar features have been available since 2015 to users of Wikipedia's Android app.

Those new technologies set a high bar for any portal which actually tries to add value for the reader. But this portals fails the basic requirements even of the guidelines written before the new technologies changed the game:
 * WP:POG requires that portals should be about "broad subject areas, which are likely to attract large numbers of interested readers and portal maintainers" ... but this portals has been unmaintained for ten years, and it has abysmal page views. In Jan–Feb 2019 it got an average of only 11 pageviews per day, less than the median for all portals of 15 views/day and a risible 0.25% of the 4,490 daily views for the head article.
 * WP:POG requires that portals have "a bare minimum of 20 non-list, in topic articles". But this has only 8 articles, a mere 40% of the minimum.

Maybe someday someone will build and maintain a portal which actually adds value for readers. But if so, they will do better to start afresh, rather than building on these 10-year-old content forks.

So I propose that this portal and its sub-pages be deleted per WP:TNT, without prejudice to recreating a curated portal in accordance with whatever criteria the community may have agreed at that time. Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 20:29, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - I concur with the analysis by BHG. The subject area of this portal is not just a capital city but the union territory, that is, subnational entity, that includes the city.  However, we have seen that neither cities nor subnational entities attract the large numbers of readers and portal maintainers that are needed for a useful portal.  Robert McClenon (talk) 20:43, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment WikiProject Delhi courtesy talkpage notified. UnitedStatesian (talk) 18:28, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
 * That project appears to be dead - for some years the only things at WT:INDL have been newsletters etc (not editors discussing Delhi articles). DexDor(talk) 16:35, 13 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete – In the absence of criteria WP: POG for cities and the exclusion of the parent portal Portal:Cities I understand that a portal about only one city is not a broad topic.Guilherme Burn (talk) 13:08, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep - I have fixed the DYK and news sections so they automatically update, and the subject is certainly broad enough to meet the WP:POG guideline's breadth-of-subject-area requirement. UnitedStatesian (talk) 18:29, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * For a portal to be maintained long term (rather than just when it's at MFD) really needs people interested specifically in the topic (which for this portal probably means people in Delhi) to want to maintain it. That the topic doesn't have an active wikiproject means that's unlikely. DexDor(talk) 16:35, 13 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete per arguments above. DexDor(talk) 16:35, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.