Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Education in Pakistan

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was:  delete. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 01:13, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

Portal:Education in Pakistan


Mini-portal, abandoned since 2013 with phantom subpages.

Created in August 2011‎ by, who has bee blocked since 2015 a sockpuppet. No maintainer since then, but is escaped the rash of converting portals to navbox-clone.

The subpages appear to have been mostly created in 2013 by @Northamerica1000 (NA1K). Special:PrefixIndex/Portal:Education in Pakistan shows:
 * Portal:Education in Pakistan/Topics, which just transcludes the navbox Education in Pakistan
 * Portal:Education in Pakistan/Selected picture/1 and Portal:Education in Pakistan/Selected picture/2, both created in 2013 by NA1K and unchanged since then
 * Portal:Education in Pakistan/Selected picture/3, /4, /5, /6, /7, /8,/9 and /10 ... all of which are empty shells created in 2013 by NA1K
 * Portal:Education in Pakistan/Selected article/1, created in 2013 by NA1K and unchanged since then
 * Portal:Education in Pakistan/Selected article/2, /3, /4, /5, /6, /7, /8, /9 and /10 ... all of which are empty shells created in 2013 by NA1K

... and that's it. So despite the long list of sub-pages, there is actually one selected article, and two only selected pictures. The pictures are currently unused, because @The Transhumanist (TTH) modified the portal to use the images from the head article Education in Pakistan. That was a common trick of TTH's, but is pointless redundancy because the Wikimedia software offers automatic imagery galleries. For ordinary readers who are not logged in, clicking on an image brings up an image gallery of all the images on that page. It's full-screen, so it's actually better than even a click-for-next image gallery on a portal. Similar features have been available since 2015 to users of Wikipedia's Android app.

WP:POG says that unless automated, the content selection should be updated monthly, or preferably weekly. Even on a monthly cycle, this pseudo-portal has missed over 90 consecutive updates.

In theory, this a broad topic. But in practice, it has not met the WP:POG requirement that portals should be about "broad subject areas, which are likely to attract large numbers of interested readers and portal maintainers". This has not attracted maintainers, and in Jan–Feb 2019 got only a median of 4 pageviews per day.

Per WP:PORTAL, "Portals serve as enhanced 'Main Pages' for specific broad subjects". But this is massively less useful in every respect than the head article Education in Pakistan.

It is time to stop wasting the time of readers by luring them to this abandoned draft, and time to abandon the magical thinking that this abandoned relic will some day magically attract magical editors who will want to resurrect it. If any editor does want to build a real portal, they will be far better off without this relic and its ancient content-forked subpages; instead they should build a modern portal without content-forked sub-pages, as has been done many other portals such as Portal:Harz Mountains and Portal:Geophysics.

So I propose that this portal and its sub-pages be deleted per WP:TNT, without prejudice to recreating a curated portal in accordance with whatever criteria the community may have agreed at that time. Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 17:45, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - Another sock portal. When the portal maintainer does show up, check the feathers.  If there seems to be a match, request CheckUser to perform avian DNA comparison.  Robert McClenon (talk) 22:58, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete: per WP:PORTAL, active maintenance is required. This doesn't have it.  It could be broad enough, despite X in Y portals often being esoteric, but at present isn't.    SITH   (talk)   11:01, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.