Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Ferrari

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was:  delete. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 04:46, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

Portal:Ferrari


Micro-portal abandoned since 2008. Fake DYKs, very low pageviews, redundant to the head article Ferrari and its many navboxes.

The poartl was created on 30 March 2008‎ by, who last edited en.wp in 2016. The lead of WP:POG already warned that "Do not create a portal if you do not intend to assist in its regular maintenance" ... and this one has not been maintained. After creating the portal, Ictionary made his last edits to it in May 2008. Since then it has been untouched apart from minor drive-by tweaks.

Special:PrefixIndex/Portal:Ferrari shows a small set of sub-pages:
 * Portal:Ferrari/Selected picture/1, and /3 both dislay the same picture as when created in 2008 by Ictionary.
 * Portal:Ferrari/Selected picture/2 shows another picture of the same topic, the initial pic having been deleted
 * Portal:Ferrari/Selected article/1 and Portal:Ferrari/Selected article/2 both display the same topic as when created in 2008 by Ictionary. The text is also unchanged.
 * Portal:Ferrari/Did you know is textually unchanged since April 2008. . Per WP:DYK, "The DYK section showcases new or expanded articles that are selected through an informal review process. It is not a general trivia section" ... but this eleven-your-old list loses the newness, so its only effect is as a trvia section.  Additionally, I checked all four items listed, and none of them has ever been at WP:DYK.  So this is a fake DYK page: it was trvia from the outset.

And that's it. Four fake DYK items, three pictures, and only two articles rather than POG's minimum of 20, both of them 11-year-old unsourced content forks.

WP:POG requires that portals should be about "broad subject areas, which are likely to attract large numbers of interested readers and portal maintainers". However, this portal has attracted no maintainers in the 11 years since Ictionary moved on to other interests. And in January–June 2019, the portal averaged only 8 pageviews per day, whereas the head article Ferrari averaged 3,017 daily views in the same period. In other words, the head article got 393 times more views than the abandoned portal.

Per WP:PORTAL, "Portals serve as enhanced 'Main Pages' for specific broad subjects". But the Wikipedia main page requires huge amounts of work; it is maintained by several large teams of busy editors. A mini-mainpage also needs lot of ongoing work if it is going to value over the head article. And in this case, the portal is massively less useful in every respect than the head article Ferrari and its collection of navboxes.

Two newish features of the Wikimedia software means that the article and navboxes offers all the functionality which portals like this set out to offer. Both features are available only to ordinary readers who are not logged in, but you can test them without logging out by right-clicking on a link, and the select "open in private window" (in Firefox) or "open in incognito window" (Chrome).
 * 1) mouseover: on any link, mouseover shows you the picture and the start of the lead.  So the preview-selected page-function of portals is redundant: something almost as good is available automatically on any navbox or other set of links.  Try it by right-clicking on any of these links to Ferrari / Ferrari road car timeline 1947-1968 / Ferrari car timeline 1960s-1990s / Ferrari modern car timeline, open in a private/incognito tab, and mouseover any link.
 * 2) automatic imagery galleries: clicking on an image brings up an image gallery of all the images on that page. It's full-screen, so it's actually much better than  a click-for-next image gallery on a portal.   Try it by right-clicking on this link to the article Ferrari, open in a private/incognito tab, and click on any image to start the slideshow

Similar features have been available since 2015 to users of Wikipedia's Android app.

Those new technologies set a high bar for any portal which actually tries to add value for the reader. But this portals fails the basic requirements even of the guidelines written before the new technologies changed the game. Whatever potential value it might have had it 2008, it is now a failed solution to a non-problem. Time to delete it. Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 00:17, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete as per analysis by BHG. Another portal that has too few subpages (but the subpage model is flawed), too little maintenance, and too few views.  Robert McClenon (talk) 03:33, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.