Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:History of Imperial China

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was:  delete. MER-C 11:10, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

Portal:History of Imperial China

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Abandoned portal.

This is not exactly a narrow scope, but it is an unnecessarily narrow scope. As the portal notes, the Imperial period in China runs from 221 BCE to 1912 CE, excluding: centuries of well-documented history of the Shang dynasty and Zhou dynasty, and the Spring and Autumn period and the Warring States period including China's greatest philosophers; millennia of archeology and prehistory; and a century of modern history. This portal was created in 2008 by an editor who lasted edited Wikipedia in 2008.

Special:PrefixIndex/Portal:History_of_Imperial_China shows 9 articles and 5 biographies, all forked in 2008. (The portal guidelines, if they are guidelines, specify a minimum of 20.) Some of them were edited between 2010 and 2017. None were edited after 2017. The portal has DYKs; they have not been checked further.

The portal was categorized in February 2019 by a sockpuppet as needing attention. It has not received that attention. This illustrates that the argument by the portal platoon that problems with portals should be dealt with by tagging is useless. It is not clear why it was tagged, but the portal has no maintainer, and does not have an associated head article. The portal had 21 daily pageviews in Jan-Jun 19. History of China had 2164 daily pageviews.

This table compares four portals including this portal:
 * There is no short-term reason to expect that a re-creation of this portal will address the problems. Any proposed re-creation of this portal using a more modern design, and taking into account the failures of many portals, can go to Deletion Review.

Robert McClenon (talk) 00:13, 31 August 2019 (UTC) Robert McClenon (talk) 00:13, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nominator Robert McClenon. Since 2006, the lead of WP:POG has said "Do not expect other editors to maintain a portal you create" ... and this one has not been maintained by Naerii, who last updated it in June 2008 and left Wikipedia in Oct. 2008. It clearly fails WP:POG's requirement that portals should be about subjects broad enough to attract large numbers of readers and maintainers, as laid out above. I oppose re-creation as a decade of hard evidence shows the History of Imperial China is not a broad enough topic to attract readers or maintainers. Newshunter12 (talk) 03:22, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nominator and per NH12. Too narrow a topic, not maintained, low readership, which adds up to a clear fail of the WP:POG requirement that portals should be about "broad subject areas, which are likely to attract large numbers of interested readers and portal maintainers". --  Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 21:43, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Note to closing admin. I don't want in any way to prejudge the outcome ... but if you close this discussion as delete, please can you not remove the backlinks?  I have an AWB setup which allows me to easily replace them with links to the next most specific portal(s) (in this case Portal:China and Portal:History), without creating duplicate entries. --  Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 21:44, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.