Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Hudson River

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was: delete. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 21:05, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Portal:Hudson River


Another automated portal. This one largely duplicates long standing Portal:Hudson Valley aka Hudson River Valley. Includes a photo of a random little bird because the photo says it was taken by the river (not visable in the photo) and a photo of the Erie Canal in Amsterdam, New York which is a community that is on the Mohawk River, not the Hudson. One of the DYKs is about a painter from the Hudson River School which is kinda sorta related to the river topic if you stretch it hard. Selected articles include Amsterdam, New York (again not on the Hudson River), a couple of random creeks that drain into rivers that drain into the Hudson, and some other random pages without any obvious close connection to the River topic. This is inferior to the useful presentation at Hudson River that will provide real useful info to the reader, not a bunch of randomly selected bit of info. Note this page will not be subject to WP:X3 but comes from the same tools used. Legacypac (talk) 02:56, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - Can the portal be allowed to drift down the Hudson River into Long Island Sound? Robert McClenon (talk) 04:16, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
 * The above !vote lacks any policy-based qualification for deletion. North America1000 18:40, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Policy-based rationale is difficult for portals. Basically there’s WP:PCSD, WP:DP, and WP:POG (guideline). —  python coder    (talk &#124; contribs) 19:33, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

We may have little policy to rely on but the precident is piling up:
 * Keep – Regarding "this one largely duplicates long standing Portal:Hudson Valley", this is patently false. There is very little duplication at all. This portal focuses specifically on Hudson River related topics, and serves as a functional navigational aid for readers who choose to utilize Wikipedia using portals. Topical fine tuning can be easily accomplished by customizing the portal to omit topics that are not related enough. I would do this now, but since it's nominated for deletion, I will wait to see if the portal is retained. I wouldn't want to waste my time improving a portal that may subsequently be deleted, which would be counterproductive. North America1000 18:37, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete a duplicate portal. Either Portal:Hudson Valley or Portal:Hudson River can drift down the river into Long Island Sound.  Robert McClenon (talk) 21:19, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete as largely duplicate subject. Fram (talk) 13:28, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

Portal MfD Results
Grouped Nominations total 127 Portals:
 * 1) Miscellany for deletion/US County Portals Deleted 64 portals
 * 2) Miscellany for deletion/Districts of India Portals Deleted 30 Portals
 * 3) Miscellany for deletion/Portals for Portland, Oregon neighborhoods Deleted 23 Portals
 * 4) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Allen Park, Michigan Deleted 6 Portals
 * 5) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Cryptocurrency Deleted 2 Portals
 * 6) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:North Pole Deleted 2 Portals

Individual Nominations:
 * 1) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Circles Deleted
 * 2) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Fruits Deleted
 * 3) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:E (mathematical constant) Deleted
 * 4) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Burger King Deleted
 * 5) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Cotingas Deleted
 * 6) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Prostitution in Canada Deleted
 * 7) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Agoura Hills, California Deleted
 * 8) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Urinary system Deleted
 * 9) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:You Am I Deleted
 * 10) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Cannabis (2nd nomination) Reverted to non-Automated version
 * 11) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Intermodal containers Deleted
 * 12) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Adventure travel Deleted
 * 13) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Adam Ant Deleted
 * 14) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Benito Juárez, Mexico City Deleted
 * 15) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Spaghetti Deleted
 * 16) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Wikiatlas Deleted
 * 17) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Greek alphabet Deleted
 * 18) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn Deleted
 * 19) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Accounting Deleted

Related WikiProject: Legacypac (talk) 19:47, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
 * 1) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Quantum portals Demoted


 * Merge and redirect with Portal:Hudson Valley. If anything this is a more likely search term for the existing portal, and while the scope is not identical they are closely related so merging is the sensible way forward. Thryduulf (talk) 16:22, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete (and delete Portal:Hudson Valley, too). This is a portal based on geographic proximity, and they're both in the same geographic proximity. To say we need one portal for the river, and one portal for the valley surrounding the river... come on... There are a lot of rivers in the world, they all have valleys, and the Hudson isn't even a particularly notable one (compare to the Nile or the Amazon). We shouldn't have portals based on geographic locations, as it turns Wikipedia into a travel guide. Next, businesses in the area will want their articles included in the portal. Leviv&thinsp;ich 22:54, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.