Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Internet Relay Chat

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was:  delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:41, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

Portal:Internet Relay Chat


Abandoned, static portal on a rapidly-declining internet protocol: Internet Relay Chat (IRC).

Created in June 2010‎ by, who last edited in 2011.

The list of sub-pages at Special:PrefixIndex/Portal:Internet Relay Chat is sparse, and aged. There is only one of everything, so no rotation of content. Portal:Internet Relay Chat/Selected article/1 and Portal:Internet Relay Chat/Selected article/1 have not been edited since EdoDoDo created them in 2010.

Even the head article Internet Relay Chat looks moribund. Internet Relay Chat is hazy about what's happened since 2012.

WP:POG says that unless automated, the content selection should be updated monthly, or preferably weekly. Even on a monthly cycle, this pseudo-portal has missed over 100 consecutive updates.

I doubt that IRC ever qualified as a broad topic to meet the WP:POG requirement that portals should be about "broad subject areas, which are likely to attract large numbers of interested readers and portal maintainers". In Jan–Feb 2019 it got only 5 pageviews per day, which is less than half the abysmal median of 13 per day for all portals. And it has consistently failed to attract maintainers.

Those maintainers are unlikely to appear. WikiProject IRC is marked as inactive, and the only posts on its talk page since 2017 it have been broadcast messages.

Best to just delete this. Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 08:28, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - At first I thought when I saw this entry in the MFD TOC that it might have to do with the Help facility for Wikipedia that uses IRC in place of talk page discussion. (My opinion is that the quality of the advice given to authors of drafts via IRC is inconsistent.  Some get good advice, and some get advice that they misunderstand, and, without a written record, there is no way that the author can be persuaded that they misunderstood.  That isn't the fault of the advisor.)  No.  It's a portal, with 5 daily pageviews, as opposed to 1285 daily pageviews for the article.  The portal certainly isn't helping new editors improve their drafts.  Deleting it without prejudice is too generous, but I don't want to argue.  Robert McClenon (talk) 17:03, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment - I now noticed. User:BrownHairedGirl isn't being too generous, because she said 'just delete this'.  If someone wants to re-create it, they know where Deletion Review is.  Robert McClenon (talk) 00:10, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep - Keep per now, wait for the discussion on the future of the portals stabilize. I believe that portal has a great potential in WP:PORTAL "Providing bridges between reading and editing, and between the encyclopedia proper and the Wikipedia community". If maintained, I propose to improve itGuilherme Burn (talk) 13:57, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Ah for goodness sake, @Guilherme Burn, "Providing bridges" etc is a laudable aim, but that's all subject to having a sufficient broad topic..
 * People can portals it for as long as they like, but this will remain a narrow topic: one dying internet protocol out of how many hundreds of protocols?
 * You may may be interested in doing some work on it now, it will need maintenance into the future even if you aren't around ... and with the WikiProject dead, where are those other maintainers going to come from? -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 00:08, 24 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete. Even by Portal standards, this is a particularly weak one.  Narrow topic that is simply an out-of-date and essentially abandoned cut-and-paste of the main article+navbox.  As will all such situations, will only degrate the percieved quality of the main article+navbox in the eyes of the reader.  Given that IRC is an old protocol, it is more important to focus our scarce editing resources on the main article+navbox than a portal that nobody seems to want to read. Britishfinance (talk) 10:30, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete Which part of the community is this going to bridge to? The inactive WikiProject IRC? UnitedStatesian (talk) 20:28, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - Abandoned draft of a portal, 12 subpages, created 2010-06-19 11:08:34 by User:EdoDodo. Never went alive. Nothing to keep. Portal:Internet Relay Chat. Pldx1 (talk) 13:14, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.