Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Kanye West

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was:  delete. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 04:02, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Portal:Kanye West


Narrow topic: the musician Kanye West.

Other portals for musicians have been deleted, e.g. WP:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Beyoncé Knowles, and portals deleted at WP:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Drake (musician).

Per WP:PORTAL, "Portals serve as enhanced 'Main Pages' for specific broad subjects". But this is massively less useful in every respect than the head article Kanye West with its two navboxes Kanye West and Kanye West songs.

The portal contains only three boxes, one of songs and one albums and a slideshow of pictures.

The picture slideshow is redundant, because it's a. (See below)

Each of the other boxes displays a content-forked excerpt of the lead one of 5 pre-selected articles. However, that is also redundant, because each item is listed in a broader-scope navbox which already has that functionality built-in.

Two newish features of the Wikimedia software mean that the two key functions of this portal built in to the head article and its navboxes. Both features are available only to ordinary readers who are not logged in, but you can test them without logging out by right-clicking on a link, and the select "open in private window" (in Firefox) or "open in incongnito window" (Chrome).
 * 1) mouseover: on any link, mouseover shows you the picture and the start of the lead.  So the preview-selected page-function of this portal is redundant: something almost as good is available automatically on any navbox or other set of links.  Try it on Kanye West and Kanye West songs.
 * 2) automatic imagery galleries: clicking on an image brings up an image gallery of all the images on that page. It's full-screen, so it's actually much better than even a click-for-next image gallery on a portal.  This automated portal draws its image gallery solely from the head article Kanye West, so try clicking on any image.  Then compare that full-screen slideshow with the tiny slideshow on Portal:Kanye West.

Similar features have been available since 2015 to users of Wikipedia's Android app.

For a narrow topic such as this, the portal adds nothing. It's just an inferior replica of functions already provided by default on all the relevant articles.

Why waste your time coming to this page for excerpts of the lead of 5 songs when Kanye West songs already has that functionality built-in for all 221 songs it displays? -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 20:40, 16 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - Yet another abandoned portal, whose originator has not edited in eight years. The head article is a remarkably popular article with average 11,345 daily page views in January and February.  By contrast, the portal has had an average of 15 daily page views, a ratio of more than 700:1.  There is already an emerging consensus that individual performers are not "broad subject areas" for portals, and the metrics confirm that.  Readers who want to read about Kanye West can read the head article and then dive down via either links or categories.  Robert McClenon (talk) 00:57, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete:
 * Portals require active maintenance in order to fulfil their purpose.
 * A single person is seldom of broad enough scope to warrant a portal, as confirmed by previous discussions.
 * Page views show that what is left of the functionality of the abandoned portal has been usurped by other browsing methods such as the MediaWiki preview extension.
 * Much of the content is forked needlessly from extant navboxes.
 *  SITH   (talk)   11:18, 17 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Comment - The high ratio of pageviews between the head article and the portal of 756:1 is similar to Portal:Eminem, Portal:Rihanna, and Portal:Taylor Swift. These ratios confirm the consensus that individual performers (or groups) do not support portals.  I recommend that this portal be deleted with prejudice against a re-creation in the future.  Robert McClenon (talk) 04:47, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.