Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Lincolnshire

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was:  delete. ‑Scottywong | [confer] || 22:48, 27 September 2019 (UTC)

Portal:Lincolnshire

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Portal:Lincolnshire is one of 23 portals for counties in England. This portal does not have large numbers of readers or of maintainers. It had 8 daily pageviews in the first half of 2019, as opposed to 792 for the main article. I have not counted the total number of articles on Lincolnshire. Special:PrefixIndex/Portal:Lincolnshire shows 4 articles, 6 biographies, 8 Do You Knows (not reviewed), and 4 pictures. All of the 10 articles are from 2010, approximately half have been tweaked. Biography 4 stated that Margaret Thatcher was the only female Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, which illustrates the hazard of forked subpages. There has been no substantive maintenance since 2010. As has been noted, even portals for first-level administrative subdivisions seldom have the readers and maintenance required by portal guidelines. One can argue over whether counties in England are first-level or second-level, but re-creation does not seem useful. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:49, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Note to closing admin. I don't want in any way to prejudge the outcome ... but if you close this discussion as delete, please can you not remove the backlinks?  I have an AWB setup which allows me to easily replace them with links to the next most specific portal(s) (in this case Portal:England), without creating duplicate entries. --  Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 18:55, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Or possibly just redirect the portal(s) to Portal:England? I would say that the counties of England are 1st level but indeed we might not need portals for them.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 14:14, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per the nom. Too narrow a topic (six months of MfD has shown that sub-national regions hardly if ever are broad enough to sustain a portal), not maintained, low readership, which adds up to a clear fail of the WP:POG requirement that portals should be about "broad subject areas, which are likely to attract large numbers of interested readers and portal maintainers". POG also states portals should be associated with a WikiProject, but WikiProject Lincolnshire has been tagged as inactive (the last editor to editor conversation was in February 2015) and the only mention ever of the portal on the talk page was a 2010 comment by it's creator announcing its creation and asking for help, but got no response. I oppose re-creation, as a decade of hard evidence shows Lincolnshire is not a broad enough topic to attract readers or maintainers. Newshunter12 (talk) 03:27, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

Geographic British Portals

 * Comment - The above table shows those portals for places that are or may be in the United Kingdom (or that both are and are not in the United Kingdom) for which I have portal data. If your county isn't listed, it probably is one for which I don't yet have county portal data.  It doesn't mean that the portal will or will not be deleted. It doesn't express agreement or disagreement with the existence of any political arrangement (and argument may be subject to discretionary sanctions).   Robert McClenon (talk) 20:36, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

Lincolnshire

 * Delete, and oppose re-creation. Narrow topic + Low readership + poor maintenance = clear fail of the WP:POG requirement that portals should be about "broad subject areas, which are likely to attract large numbers of interested readers and portal maintainers".
 * POG also guides that "the portal should be associated with a WikiProject (or have editors with sufficient interest) to help ensure a supply of new material for the portal and maintain the portal", but as @Newshunter12 rightly notes, WP:WikiProject Lincolnshire is inactive, and has never shown any interest in the portal.
 * The last six months of MFDs have shown repeatedly that sub-national geographical areas rarely make viable portals. Even in the United States (which benefits massively from systemic bias) many portals on states have failed and been deleted. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 02:37, 23 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete it forever, it doesn't need a portal.Catfurball (talk) 22:48, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete and oppose re-creation - as explained above, it clearly fails the portal guidelines. -Crossroads- (talk) 03:42, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. Too narrow topic. Abandoned portal.--Darwinek (talk) 22:24, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete and oppose re-creation - doesn't meet portal guidelines and is too narrow to be useful as a portal. Kaldari (talk) 19:08, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.