Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Madonna (entertainer) (2nd nomination)

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was: delete. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:43, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

Portal:Madonna (entertainer)


This is a single biography portal which I understand does not meet WP:POG. This is five years without receiving real addition of content. Single biography portals are very distant from the main page according to Portals tree.

287 pageviews (30 days) for Portal:Madonna (entertainer) compared to 310,640 pageviews (30 days) for Madonna (entertainer) also demonstrates that readers do not see much sense in exploring a narrow topic portal like single biography portal. Guilherme Burn (talk) 20:11, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per these 42 recent precedents

This is what I believe to be a comprehensive list of the single person portals brought to MFD in 2019. They were created by a variety of users at various times, some are old abandoned pages and others are recent automatic creations. This list is based on the Miscellany_for_deletion/Archived_debates with only the individual people extracted. Yet to be archived (as of April 9) discussions are not listed.


 * 1) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Kenny Rogers‎
 * 2) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Ellen DeGeneres
 * 3) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Alfred Nobel (: delete)
 * 4) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Kazi Nazrul Islam (2nd nomination) (: delete)
 * 5) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Nehru–Gandhi family (: Delete)
 * 6) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Shina (: Delete)
 * 7) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Lexa (: Delete)
 * 8) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Chaka Khan (delete)
 * 9) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Robert Schumann (delete)
 * 10) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Yo-Yo Ma (: delete)
 * 11) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Amy Winehouse (: delete)
 * 12) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Chrisye (: delete)
 * 13) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Benny Goodman (2nd nomination) (: delete)
 * 14) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Brandy Norwood (: delete)
 * 15) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:David Guetta (: delete)
 * 16) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Bobby Vinton (: delete)
 * 17) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Marco Pierre White (: delete)
 * 18) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Enrique Iglesias (: delete)
 * 19) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:LeBron James (: delete)
 * 20) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Spartacus (: delete)
 * 21) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Felix Mendelssohn (: delete)
 * 22) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Bill Cosby (: delete)
 * 23) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:R. Kelly (: delete)
 * 24) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Andrew Cuomo (: delete)
 * 25) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Roger Moore (: delete)
 * 26) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Hubert Humphrey (: delete)
 * 27) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Jane Goodall (: delete)
 * 28) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Alexz Johnson (: Delete)
 * 29) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Billy the Kid (: Delete)
 * 30) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Peter Madsen (: Delete)
 * 31) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Jagadguru Rambhadracharya (: Delete)
 * 32) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Al Jolson (: delete)
 * 33) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Aaron Sorkin (: delete)
 * 34) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Alieu Ebrima Cham Joof (: Delete)
 * 35) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Virginia Woolf (: Delete)
 * 36) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:A. H. Belo (: delete)
 * 37) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Alexander Litvinenko (: delete)
 * 38) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Jerome K. Jerome (: delete)
 * 39) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Dmitri Mendeleev (: delete)
 * 40) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn (: Delete)
 * 41) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Kelly Hyman (: delete)
 * 42) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Adam Ant (:   delete)

In this specific case the page was previously deleted during a purge of single person portals Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Madonna (entertainer) Legacypac (talk) 20:16, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment - Even in 2008, it was agreed that portals should be broad in scope. See Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Madonna (entertainer).  Robert McClenon (talk) 03:28, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete as per multiple discussions. This could be a G4.  Robert McClenon (talk) 03:28, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment to User:Legacypac - No. There are 42 individual-person portals listed.  Two of those are drafts.  Robert McClenon (talk) 03:30, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes fixed. Thanks. Looking at too many lines of text obviously. Legacypac (talk) 03:35, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * The prior 2008 discussion is very enlightening. "Narrow scope" and "all need cleanup" sounds like nothing has changed in portal space. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Britney Spears They were deleting some big names too. Legacypac (talk) 03:39, 11 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Comment  - Old portal created 2010-01-17T04:44:15Z by User:Moxy. Waiting for a comment by a maintainer, if any: Portal:Madonna (entertainer). Pldx1 (talk) 11:30, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * If the community is deciding to delete bio portals I got no problem with that...pls see Category:Musician portals as I made many bio portals years ago at the request of Music projects. -....we also have 500+ at Category:Biography portals.- Moxy 🍁 11:36, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * User:Moxy I did a batch of bio portals here Miscellany_for_deletion. The same arguments apply to single bands. A scope of one person or one band is very narrow, regardless of how many albums or books or whatever they produced. The article is the better way to present the person/band and their work. Legacypac (talk) 17:04, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I agree....I have made hundreds of portals over the years.... and very few I find are worthy of retention since the portals have failed all together.-- Moxy 🍁 18:43, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.