Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Magic: The Gathering

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was: delete. ~ Amory  (u • t • c) 19:09, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

Portal:Magic: The Gathering


Narrow topic, unmaintained, almost unused.

WP:POG requires that portal be about "broad subject areas, which are likely to attract large numbers of interested readers and portal maintainers"'. This one is about a narrow topic: a single collectible card game Magic: The Gathering. MTG is only a Level 5 Vital Article, i.e. in the 10,001–50,000 range to top topics. Hundreds of portals about the top thousand topics rot from neglect and underuse, so this is way too narrow.

This portal had been categorised as "needing attention" or "under construction" since its creation in 2013. It was converted to the automated format on 22 September 2018‎ by @The Transhumanist, and has just been converted back to its old, broken manual state by @MJL. There is no reason to expect that its 6 years of brokenness is about to be ended.

In January–March 2019, this portal had an average of only ten pageviews per day, so it fails the POG test that it should "attract large numbers of interested readers". By contrast, the head article gets 1,660 pageviews/day.

It's easy to see why readers don't use the portal. The head article, with navbox Template:Magic: The Gathering, is already an excellent navigational hub. Readers simply don't need a portal to navigate the content ... and this perma-broken portal will be little use to anyone who does visit it. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 18:27, 13 April 2019 (UTC) Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 18:27, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete I'm starting to see the reconversion of portals back to unmaintained junk state as systematic vandalism. At least with automated portals we know roughly what the problems are. The people now reversing the automation have no commitment to maintain these - and if the original creators or anyone else was paying attention they would have objected to the automation. Portal:Toys and Portal:Games cover this topic. Legacypac (talk) 18:37, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. I am glad that I stepped away for a bit. I was about to actually solve the second issue by actually fixing it. It does not seem worth it considering the first issue. it might also be worth co-nominating Portal:Dungeons & Dragons as well. They go hand-in-hand as they are both Wizards of the Coast table-top gaming properties.  &#8211;  MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 18:48, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - The question appears to be a choice between two broken states, automated and manual, or the bit bucket. We don't need broken portals, and the mythical being that eats deleted bits will be happy.  Robert McClenon (talk) 23:27, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - Even if the portal was not broken, single games are not broad and diverse enough to warrant a complicated to maintain portal. It's navbox seems to organize its content fine without a portal, making this portal unnecessary. Meszzy2  (talk) 08:33, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment  - Old portal,  9 subpages, created 2013-12-22 00:19:00 by User:StudiesWorld. A comment by a maintainer, if any, could make the day. Portal:Magic: The Gathering. Pldx1 (talk) 21:00, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per BrownHairedGirl. Kaldari (talk) 22:39, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete This broken portal was abandoned for four years. &#8213; Susmuffin Talk 06:42, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.