Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Myanmar

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was:  delete without prejudice to a properly formed portal, per below. MER-C 19:59, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

Portal:Myanmar

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Pointless, unnmaintained perma-junk pseudo-portal which wastes the time of any reader who visits it. This 6-year old page is not worth keeping in any of its revisions.

It was created in April 2013, by, whose series of indef blocks for disruption began later that year, and the third block in June 2014 has not been lifted. It remained a content-free shell until 22 January 2019, when @The Transhumanist converted it to an automated format based on the navbox. That made it simply a bloated WP:REDUNDANTFORK of the navbox. There is a clear community consensus that single-navbox automated portals are useless (see Nomination of MFD:Mass-created portals based on a single navbox, where 1,390 of them were deleted by overwhelming consensus of an exceptionally high turnout).

As a result, earlier today, @Northamerica1000 (NA1K) reverted this portal to the old manual format. I am sure that was done in good faith, but unfortunately little care seems to have been taken about the quality of the result. The result of NA1K's edits is also junk: it consist solely of the lede of the head article Myanmar. No image gallery, no selected articles, no featured content, just 3 "in the news" items from 2012. Special:PrefixIndex/Portal:Myanmar is sparse.

This is not a matter of NA1K choosing the wrong version to restore. The problem is that 6 years after this pseudoportal was created, there is no version worth keeping. We should not be wasting readers' time by encouraging them to visit this junk. It is surprising to see that after restoring this junk, NA1K did not even mark the pages as needing attention.

Per WP:PORTAL, "Portals serve as enhanced 'Main Pages' for specific broad subjects", but this is an exceptionally degraded version of the head article Myanmar. Luckily, the portal got only 14 pageviews per day in January and February 2019, but that's still a lot of people's time wasted: it's 800 views of a page of junk.

Yes, I am aware that Myanmar is a country. WP:POG guides that portals should be about "broad subject areas, which are likely to attract large numbers of interested readers and portal maintainers". Myanmar is clearly a broad topic, but there is no clear community consensus either way on which broad topics should have portals. The head article is a Level-4 vital article, i.e. it is in the 1,001–10,000 range of priority topics, which seems to me to be a marginal set. As of now there 2,805 portals, of which 1,526 are being discussed at MFD, leaving only 1,279 whose existence is undisputed. So it seems to me to be unlikely that community has the resources to extend portals far (if at all) into VA-4 topics.

Despite my own scepticism, I do not want to prejudge the outcomes of any RFCs which define more precisely which portals the community does actually want. So I propose that this portal and all its subpages be deleted without prejudice to recreating a curated portal not based on a single navbox, in accordance with whatever criteria the community may have agreed at that time. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 13:09, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
 * See also WP:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Angola (2nd nomination), a discussion of another perma-junk portal restored to a useless manual version by @Northamerica1000, again without marking it as needing attention. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 13:13, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

Discussion (Portal:Myanmar)

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 * Delete - What an innovative crappy portal: it doesn't even try to display one article + one picture + one biography. It only displays a navbox ! A great navigation tool, indeed. "Old portal",   6 subpages, created 2013-04-13 12:24:51 by User:Bonkers The Clown. Portal:Myanmar. Pldx1 (talk) 18:22, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete worse than Portal:Aruba Legacypac (talk) 18:32, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - As noted, a creatively crappy portal created by another blocked user. I would suggest that the originator of this portal be topic-banned from edits in portal space, but the grim humor might be missed.  Robert McClenon (talk) 01:30, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. Nearly all countries are reasonable topics for a portal, but this doesn't look as if it was ever finished. Espresso Addict (talk) 04:51, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete without prejudice to re-creation. Obviously a suitable topic. Bad implementation. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 00:10, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.