Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Nairobi

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was:  delete. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 04:11, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

Portal:Nairobi

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Abandoned mini-portal on a narrow topic. WP:POG requires that portals should be about "broad subject areas, which are likely to attract large numbers of interested readers and portal maintainers." This portal has neither large numbers of readers and no maintainers. The portal has essentially been abandoned for over five years (the creator, Nairobi123, is still active on Wikipedia, but last touched it and portal space in general in May 2017), save some passing one-off updates. The page view count is abysmal. From June 1 - July 30 2019, there was an average of 8 views per day to the main page (while the head article Nairobi had 2,181 views per day in the same period.)

Special:PrefixIndex/Portal:Nairobi shows of the 4 articles, three were last updated around creation in 2013 and one in 2014 to remove a reference. Of the seven biographies, 1-4; 6-7 have been untouched since creation in 2013, when excluding link work and removing references. Five's only edit was being converted to a new person in 2017. Biography 7 is about Caroline Mutoko, whose article was speedy deleted in September 2018 for complete lack of notability, which left a red link in her biography. These 10 active articles are half the POG minimum of 20 articles, and only three are above start-class. The five panoramas all date to 2013-14. The four DYK's all date to 2013. The fourth is partly in broken English, and all appear to be fake DYK's usurping the good name of WP:DYK. A fifth DYK was removed in 2017. All 20 pictures in the gallery were added or last updated in 2013-14. The manual news section, which has full dates for each entry, spans from 2009-13 with four entries, and was last edited in 2013.

WP:POG also guides that "the portal should be associated with a WikiProject (or have editors with sufficient interest) to help ensure a supply of new material for the portal and maintain the portal.". However, WikiProject Kenya is defunct (the only 2019 post was a portal MfD notice posted by an outside editor, which got no response there or at MfD; the last time one editor responded to another was in March 2014), This wikiproject also appears to have never had anything meaningful to do with this portal. While the portal creator, Nairobi123, is listed as a member of the project, they have never once edited the project talk page and only made a few edits to the main page, and there has never been any mention of this portal on the talk page. No one has even bothered to remove the red link on the main page to Portal:Mombasa (also created by Nairobi123), deleted in June 2019.

This long abandoned decaying portal was never fully developed and fails WP:POG on numerous counts. It's time to just Delete it. Newshunter12 (talk) 09:44, 29 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete as per User:Newshunter12. Inadequate viewing and no maintenance.  The following table shows metrics for portals for Kenya:

City portals, even for large cities, and Nairobi is a large city, seldom have enough readers to justify the portal. There is no short-term reason to expect that a re-creation of this portal will address the problems. Any proposed re-creation of this portal using a more modern design, and taking into account the failures of many portals, can go to Deletion Review. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:30, 29 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete Topic is too narrow to warrant a portal. SD0001 (talk) 15:20, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Note to closing admin. I don't want in any way to prejudge the outcome ... but if you close this discussion as delete, please can you not remove the backlinks?  I have an AWB setup which allows me to easily replace them with links to the next most specific portal(s) (in this case Portal:Kenya), without creating duplicate entries. --  Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 16:05, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete a city shouldn't have a portal period.Catfurball (talk) 22:01, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete, mostly per nominator's thorough investigation.
 * I'm not entirely sure whether @Newshunter12 was entirely right to describe this as a narrow topic. Nairobi has a population >3 million, with >5 million in the metropolitan area.  We'd need to assess how much coverage there is.
 * However, that question is moot, because the test of broadness also includes a requirement for plenty of readers and maintainers, both tests which the nom correctly notes that this portal clearly fails. And it also fails the POG requirement to be associated with an active WikiProject.
 * So, like the overwhelming majority of city portals, this one is a clear fail of POG. I oppose re-creation. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 22:37, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.