Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Nazism (2nd nomination)

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was:  delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 09:36, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Portal:Nazism

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Neglected portal.

This portal was speedy deleted shortly after an MfD was initiated in 2008. It was recreated in August 2012. In August 2017 this portal was moved from Portal:Nazi Germany to Portal:Nazism as a result of uncontested move request.

Six selected articles. Two from May 2009, two August 2017, one from August 2012 and one from September 2015. Mein Kampf is B class. Triumph of the Will is C class.

Three selected bios. One from August 2012. Selected biography/1 and Selected biography/3 were automated in May 2018.

One selected battle and one selected battleship from August 2012. Those two sections don't really belong here as they have more to do with war doctrine than ideology.

Legacypac blanked the Nazi quotes in April 2018. These portals can take on the appearance of advocacy sites by passersby, even when editors don't intend it.

This portal strongly overlaps with better portals, including Portal:World War II, Portal:Fascism and Portal:Germany. Mark Schierbecker (talk) 06:36, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per the nom. This redundant Bonsai portal has been abandoned for about seven years, save for sporadic one-off maintenance, and is nine articles short of POG's minimum of 20 (not all of its articles even fit the topic). Since 2006, the lead of WP:POG has said "Do not expect other editors to maintain a portal you create" ... and this one has not been maintained by Achowat, who last updated it in Sep. 2015 and has made three edits to Wikipedia since 2017.
 * It clearly fails WP:POG's requirement that portals should be about subjects broad enough to attract large numbers of readers and maintainers. This abandoned portal has had about seven years of no steady maintainers and it had a low (upon analysis) 87 views |Portal:Nazi_Germany per day from January 1 to June 30 2019 (while the head articles Nazi Germany and Nazism had 12,733 views |Nazi_Germany per day in the same period). This means the portal had a mere 0.68% of the daily page views of the head articles, which is very low. This is also a steady long-term decline from 106 views |Portal:Nazi_Germany per day from July 1 to December 30 2015. Portals stand or fall on their merits in the now, not what could someday hypothetically happen with them, and this one falls flat. I oppose re-creation, as seven years of hard evidence shows Nazism is not a broad enough topic to attract readers and maintainers. Newshunter12 (talk) 07:42, 2 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete as an unnecessarily divisive poorly maintained portal. In my opinion, the pageview rate for this portal (with 2 names) is not low, and this portal is a well-viewed but poorly maintained portal.  It has only 11 articles, which is not broad coverage.  Because of the contentious nature of the subject, the portal is a target for vandalism and for POV-pushing.  Anti-Nazi vandalism is still vandalism.  Wikipedia needs to defend articles on controversial subjects from vandalism because our mission is to present human knowledge with a neutral point of view.  We do not have an obligation to maintain divisive portals.  Some of the articles are not directly related to Nazism, and as such may not be controversial but are irrelevant.   There is no short-term reason to expect that a re-creation of this portal will address the problems.  Any proposed re-creation of this portal using a more modern design, and taking into account the failures of many portals, and including a maintenance plan (since lack of maintenance is a problem with most portals), can go to Deletion Review. Robert McClenon (talk) 19:54, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Note to closing admin. I don't want in any way to prejudge the outcome ... but if you close this discussion as delete, please can you not remove the backlinks?  I have an AWB setup which allows me to easily replace them with links to the next most specific portal(s) (in this case Portal:Germany + Portal:Fascism), without creating duplicate entries. --  Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 08:08, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.