Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:North Dakota

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was:  delete. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 03:33, 21 June 2019 (UTC)

Portal:North Dakota


This is an unmaintained and little-viewed portal on a state of the United States. The following is a listing of the least-viewed state portals:

A complete listing of state portals with metrics can be seen at WP:US State Portal Metrics. Portals that are not maintained are useless, and, if the information that is facing the reader becomes out-of-date, they are worse than useless, because anyone can edit an article, but heritage portals with subpages contain old copies of articles that require special knowledge to edit.

A state of the United States may be considered a priori to be a broad subject area, but this portal has been shown a posteriori not to be attracting readers or a portal maintainer. A portal is a miniature Main Page and requires a substantial investment in volunteer time.

This portal should be deleted without prejudice to re-creating a portal maintained by a volunteer who is willing to invest the time to support a miniature Main Page under the portal guidelines that are in effect at the time. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:36, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

Comment - There has not yet an strong argument to fit in WP:POG "broad topics" portals about biographies and portals about cities, sub portals about countries (Portal:cuisine of "country", military of "country", economy of "country") too. But what about states? Would not they an unnecessary fork of the country portal?Guilherme Burn (talk) 18:11, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment - User:Guilherme Burn - I do not think that a simple rule can be stated as to what is an appropriate level of broad subject area. The number of readers of a portal or of the lead article and the presence or absence of a portal maintainer must be deteremined a posteriori.  Is Portal:California an unnecessary fork of Portal:United States?  The state is larger than Zimbabwe, and the state portal is viewed more than the country portal.  Is Portal:United States an unnecessary fork of Portal:North America?  The country has more portal views and more article views than the continent.  What rule would you suggest, or would you suggest that portal deletion be considered on a case-by-case basis?  Robert McClenon (talk) 15:01, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
 * The main argument for the mass deletion of single page portals was the fact that were created in seconds without worry for maintenance, but this has been happening for years with the creation of "copy paste" portals from the base of other portals, with intrudutions of articles and parts of wikiprojects. All these creations were in good faith, for lack of clarity in WP:POG, which in my opinion should be objective, countries OK, Sports OK, NO Biographies, NO Cities, etc.Guilherme Burn (talk) 19:02, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete WikiProject is inactive. No active maintainers, by which it fails the WP:POG guideline. UnitedStatesian (talk) 12:08, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nominator. It's not so much abandoned as never born. There's no selection of content, no navigation of content, just a box of North Dakota symbols. --  Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 20:04, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.