Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Palace of Versailles

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was: Delete. — xaosflux  Talk 17:24, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Portal:Palace of Versailles


Similar to Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Winter Palace just in France instead of Russia. Legacypac (talk) 05:30, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete  - An automated portal, created 2018-09-07T09:36:19Z, only worth of an automated deletion: Portal:Palace of Versailles. Pldx1 (talk) 10:38, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete per WP:G8. This is appalling.  It's built on a single navbox, which would usually be useless duplication of the navbox... but in this case the navbox is not about the portal topic.
 * The portal uses, which redirects to Template:Versailles, which is actually a navbox for Versailles (band), a Japanese visual kei metal band. There is no navbox for the actual Palace.
 * Even worse, was created in two edits by the portalspammer @The Transhumanist as a redirect to Template:Versailles at 09:35, 7 September 2018‎, which is only one minute before they created the portal at 09:36, 7 September 2018‎.
 * It is an appalling illustration of the drive-by disruptiveness of this portalspamming that TTH never checked either the template redirect target or the resulting portal.
 * But sadly, it's also an indictment of the sloppiness of the nominator, who didn't even notice that the portal's article list and navbox at the bottom are all about a Japanese band, not a palace. That leaves me with no faith that Legacypac is employing any diligence at all in making these nominations.
 * Anyway, since the portal depends on a non-existent navbox, it fits WP:G8: Pages dependent on a non-existent or deleted page, and should be speedy deleted. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:39, 11 April 2019 (UTC)


 * See also Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 April 11. - Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:49, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * My nomination was based on scope similar to another recently deleted page as you can read. Lack of scope is the critical unfixable issue, while the wrong nav box is a fixable issue and therefore debatable. I'm not responsible to find every stupid error that is a reason to delete junk that took a minute to create. This illiterates that it is a waste of time to go through these pages one by one - just nuke them all. Legacypac (talk) 15:44, 11 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete. This is a broken portal about a topic that is too narrow to sustain a portal. It is not a G8 speedy deletion candidate though as it's not dependant on a page that has been deleted or has never existed. Thryduulf (talk) 12:43, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * @Thryduulf, it depends on a navbox template for the Palace of Versailles. That has never existed. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:00, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * it actually depends on a navbox template for the Japanese band, which does exist. It shouldn't be based on that template, and the one it was intended to be based on doesn't but that's not G8. Thryduulf (talk) 20:06, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Your wikilawyering prize is in the post, @Thryduulf. With special commendation. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 21:11, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - We certainly don't need a portal with a Lua error in place of the main article. I have not finished researching the ugly details. This portal was created during the wave of reckless portal creation. In general, a single historic building does not justify a portal.  Robert McClenon (talk) 12:55, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * @Robert McClenon, the Lua error is a product of the RFD tag which I applied to Template:Palace of Versailles. I hoped that the portal module would smart enough to handle that, but it seems not. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:58, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment - This one would have been great: Did You Know that Louis XIV of France never has seen Versailles in concert ? Pldx1 (talk) 13:36, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete with fire. This is a horrible portal. –eggofreason(talk &middot; contribs) 14:36, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment I looked at the lead and the category and knew the Winter Palace just closed delete. I did not go through the nav box real carefully because it looked roughly like the category which has music and film in it. That the nav box is about a band is hilariously inept and no one noticed for months even while people have been looking at these portals since late February. Add that in as another reason to delete. Legacypac (talk) 15:40, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete horribly broken portal, "Selected general articles" just gives you an error and the creator didn't even notice the navbox has nothing whatsoever to do with the subject matter. I don't think the topic is broad enough for a portal anyway.  Hut 8.5  18:06, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - Clearly a delete based on the fact the portal is generated from an unrelated navbox - and for sure shows how recklessly these portals were created by TTH. While Legacypac did overlook the navbox, he did still have a reason for nomination as per the Winter Palace portal - so I don't know if I'd say he was being carelessly reckless. It does however show how accustomed we're becoming to these portals being mass created spam - and while we should be ensuring due diligence when it comes to these portal deletions, I think it's an unfortunate reality that its hard not to make mistakes when deleting thousands of portals, trying to weed out which are spam and which are useful. That is not to say that a lack of diligence is acceptable, but that I expect there to be more bumps in the road as we continue to clean up the portal mess. Meszzy2  (talk) 19:23, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank-you. I have developed a mental list of common errors to look for. This is the first navbox about some totally different topic to come up. Something new every day. Legacypac (talk) 20:10, 11 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete per BrownHairedGirl. An astounding contender for the hotly contested Worst Portal Ever award. Espresso Addict (talk) 02:30, 13 April 2019 (UTC)


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