Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Pokémon (5th nomination)

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was:  delete. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:43, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

Portal:Pokémon

 * – (View MfD)

Neglected portal.
 * Ten selected articles. Or rather, nine, since one was merged. Of these nine, most are C-class, while a few are good articles.
 * Never properly maintained by the creator, who created it in mid-August 2005 and left it after Halloween that same year, with only one other edit in mid-March 2006. They also haven't edited frequently at all since mid-2008.
 * Pageviews in the first half of 2019 make up roughly .5756% of the parent article's pageviews in the same period.

These all go against the spirit of WP:POG, the very policy in which this ongoing mass deletion of portals is being checked against. ToThAc (talk) 17:11, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per the nom, ToThAc. This portal has been abandoned for about decade (though the news section alone is frequently updated), save some one-off updates by passing editors, and is 10 articles short of POG's minimum of 20. The 10 articles are all just about individual Pokémon, and all of these Pokémon were created around the 1990's at that, so that people who didn't grow up in the 90's would find this selection quite strange or be mislead. The prominently featured Understanding Pokémon has been almost blank since creation, and appears to have been an act of vandalism later aided by another editor or themselves while logged out. The Portal:Pokémon/Categories and Main topics is grossly out of date. The individual Pokémon anime series from Sep. 2010 to present are all omitted: Best Wishes!/Black & White series, XY series, and Sun & Moon series. The regions listings are an incomplete mix of regions from the anime and side games.
 * Almost nothing about the all very popular Manga, card game, anime, or Pokémon Go are mentioned on the portal because all selected articles are fancruft picks of individual Pokémon. This portal has a very strong resemblance to Portal:Harry Potter, which was similarly about a very narrow but popular topic, and was decade long abandoned fancruft with about the same number of views. It was deleted, as should this.


 * It clearly fails WP:POG's requirement that portals should be about subjects broad enough to attract large numbers of readers and maintainers. This portal has had about a decade of no steady maintainers and it had a very low 29 views per day from January 1 to June 30 2019 (while the head article Pokémon had 5,038 views per day in the same period). This is a steady long-term decline from the 41 views per day it had from July 1 to Dec. 30 2015.


 * POG also states portals should be associated with a wikiproject, but WikiProject Pokémon is best described as inactive (the last editor to editor conversation was in June 2015), and the last time the portal was mentioned outside the context of MfD on the talk page was in early Sep. 2009. Portals stand or fall on their merits in the now, not what could someday hypothetically happen with them, and this one falls flat. I oppose re-creation, as a decade of hard evidence shows Pokémon is not a broad enough topic to attract readers or maintainers. Newshunter12 (talk) 08:10, 8 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete:
 * Special:PrefixIndex/Portal:Pokémon shows, among other things, 10 Selected Pokémon articles. (The acute accent is search-significant.  Copy and paste it.)  They are in varying states of current maintenance.  (As content forks, all heritage-style subpages are prone to rot.)  In Jan-Jun19, there were 29 daily pageviews, which is not bad for a portal but not really good enough to justify a portal, and 5038 for the head article.
 * This portal has been nominated for deletion three previous times. Three of the MFDs were not properly presented and were withdrawn.  Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Pokémon (2nd nomination) was more typical of portal MFDs in the past in that some editors were optimistic that the portal would be properly maintained.  However, we see a long history of very little maintenance.
 * With hundreds of articles on the various species of Pokémon (and many related articles), it would be possible to set up a portal that used categories to reduce the need for maintenance. However, since the advocates of portals seem to want to whine about their deletion and continue to use the heritage-style design with forked subpages, it isn't likely that an improved design will be developed.  Therefore any improved design and maintenance plan can be reviewed via Deletion Review.   Robert McClenon (talk) 21:12, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete with extreme prejudice. – Levivich 03:49, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete, and oppose re-creation, per nominator and NH12. Low readership + almost no maintenance = clear fail of the WP:POG requirement that portals should be about "broad subject areas, which are likely to attract large numbers of interested readers and portal maintainers". -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 05:43, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Note to closing admin. I don't want in any way to prejudge the outcome ... but if you close this discussion as delete, please can you not remove the backlinks?  I have an AWB setup which allows me to easily replace them with links to the next most specific portal(s) (in this case Portal:Video games), without creating duplicate entries. --  Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 05:44, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.