Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Rhetoric

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was:  delete. Feel free to create a redirect if desired. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 03:58, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Portal:Rhetoric

 * Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 07:49, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 07:49, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

Non-portal portal abandoned since 2006 as a visual and textual mess. It's jsut a static page with a few boxes of essays.

Created in January 2006‎ by, who last edited in 2015, and made only 13 edits after 2006.

Mattbarton.exe also created most the sub-pages listed at Special:PrefixIndex/Portal:Rhetoric, but their current horrible state seems to be the work of sevral editors. Note in particular:
 * Portal:Rhetoric/Rhetorical Eras, a lengthy and unsourced history of rhetoric, replete with redlinks since 2007
 * Portal:Rhetoric/Rhetoric topics, basically a pair of unsourced essays stitched toegether. It has been much like this since 2006

I doubt that rhetoric is in theory a big enough to satisfy the WP:POG requirement that portals should be about "broad subject areas, which are likely to attract large numbers of interested readers and portal maintainers". But in practice it has not only lacked maintainers, it has lacked anyone willing to do even emergency surgery. And in Jan–Feb 2019 it got only 4 pagviews per day.

So I propose that this portal and its sub-pages be deleted, with prejudice against re-creation. Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 23:19, 18 May 2019 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete - Redlinks that have been redlinks for a very long time indicate that no one is likely to fix anything. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:52, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 07:49, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 00:50, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete Does not meet the breadth-of-subject-area requirement of the WP:POG guideline. Can be more than adequately covered by Portal:Language. UnitedStatesian (talk) 01:36, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Portal:Language. Per above, but I do think that this could be useful as a redirect. &#8211; MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 02:16, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete: questionable scope, abandoned.   SITH   (talk)   19:24, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - Abandoned draft of a portal, 15 subpages, created 2006-01-18 21:01:11 by User:Mattbarton.exe. Never went alive. Nothing to keep. Portal:Rhetoric. Pldx1 (talk) 21:04, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.