Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:RuPaul's Drag Race (2nd nomination)

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was:  delete. MER-C 19:07, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

Portal:RuPaul's Drag Race


A fully-automated portal which draws its "selected articles" list solely from the navbox RuPaul&#39;s Drag Race, of which it is therefore just a bloated and redundant fork.

For an explanation of why this type of portal is redundant, see the two mass deletions of similar portals: one, and two, where there was overwhelming consensus of a very high turnout to delete a total of 2,555 such portals.

Since those mass deletion discussions, I have spotted two newish features of Wikipedia which further emphasise the redundancy of this type of portal:
 * 1) mouseover: for ordinary readers who are not logged in, mouseover on any of the linked list items shows you the picture and the start of the lead.  So the preview-selected page-function of portals is redundant: something almost as good is available automatically on any navbox or other set of links
 * 2) automatic imagery galleries: for ordinary readers who are not logged in, clicking on an image brings up an image gallery of all the images on that page. It's full-screen, so it's actually much better than even a click-for-next image gallery on a portal.  This automated portal draws its image gallery solely from the head article RuPaul's Drag Race, so try the image gallery by right-clicking on RuPaul's Drag Race, and select "open in private window" or "open in incongnito window", and click on the image.  Then compare that full-screen slideshow with the tiny slideshow on Portal:RuPaul's Drag Race.

Similar features have been available since 2015 to users of Wikipedia's Android app.

This portal was previously discussed at WP:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:RuPaul's Drag Race, which closed as "keep" five days before the start of WP:Miscellany for deletion/Mass-created portals based on a single navbox. The two WP:CENT-advertised mass MFDs established a broad community consensus not to keep this type of automated portal. This nomination is to allow re-examination of this portal in light of that clear consensus.

I will ping the participants in the first MFD. Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:58, 14 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Pinging participants in the previous MFD: --  Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 15:06, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Also pinging the closer of the first MFD: @Amorymeltzer. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 15:08, 14 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Related discussions. This portal was created by, who created over 100 other navbox-based portals. Most of them were deleted in one well-attended discussion: WP:Miscellany for deletion/83 more navbox-based portals.  There were also over several dozen other discussions on other portals created by the same editor, listed in the notifications at User talk:Happypillsjr and at User talk:Happypillsjr/Archive 6. --  Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 15:24, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - I said six weeks ago that this portal was created in a wave of reckless portal creation. It still was created in a wave of reckless portal creation, and there is now a consensus as to why automated portals are not a good idea.  Perhaps this time we don't need to discuss that we are not discussing either deleting the article or deleting (cancelling) the TV show.  Robert McClenon (talk) 16:23, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment - The head article has 6875 daily page views, which illustrates that this is a relatively popular article about a relatively popular TV show. The portal has 8 daily page views.  Fans of the show are not relying on the portal.  Robert McClenon (talk) 16:27, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete A single television show does not meet the breadth-of-subject-area requirements of the WP:POG guideline. UnitedStatesian (talk) 21:07, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete – It's a fork of a navbox, and this television show is not a topic broad enough to meet WP:POG. I don't know if any television show is broad enough, but this one isn't it, for the reasons I stated in the first MfD. Leviv&thinsp;ich 16:23, 16 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete: a TV show isn't broad enough to warrant a portal. Furthermore, this just forks the navbox, making it redundant.    SITH   (talk)   11:57, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.