Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Sikhism

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was:  delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 09:04, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

Portal:Sikhism


Largely-abandoned, nearly-static mini-portal on a modestly broad subject. It uses the sub-page model of content forks.

Created in December 2005‎ by, who last edited in 2018.

The portal has been largely abandoned since creation, and Special:PrefixIndex/Portal:Sikhism contains only a small set of sub-pages.
 * Portal:Sikhism/Selected article, lots of edit-warring, but topic unchanged since 2006
 * Portal:Sikhism/Selected scripture, same topic since 2008
 * Portal:Sikhism/Did you know, one change since 2009
 * Portal:Sikhism/Selected picture, picture unchanged since this 2011 change on one picture of the Golden Temple to another
 * Portal:Sikhism/Selected Religious Figure, same topic since 2006, but now redundant

The Portal:Sikhism/Selected Religious Figure has been made redundant by this July 2018‎ edit, which means that purges of the page now load a random page on one of the eleven gurus. However, it is unlikely that any editor will want to do so, because no other item on page changes.

WP:POG says that unless automated, the content selection should be updated monthly, or preferably weekly. Even on a monthly cycle, this pseudo-portal has missed over 100 consecutive updates.

In theory, this a broad topic. Sikhism has about 25 million adherents, significantly less than several Christian denominational groups such as Lutheranism, Anglicanism, Baptism, Methodists, less the 200 million Shia muslims. That may still be enough in theory to sustain a portal, if there are both enough article sof decent quality and enough editors willing to build and maintain a portal.

However, in practice, it hasn't meet the WP:POG requirement that portals should be about "broad subject areas, which are likely to attract large numbers of interested readers and portal maintainers". This has not attracted maintainers.

It is time to stop wasting the time of readers by luring them to this abandoned page, and time to abandon the wishful thinking that this abandoned portal will some day magically attract magical editors who will want to resurrect it. If any editor does want to build a real portal, they will be far better off without this relic and its ancient content-forked sub-pages; instead they should start afresh, and build a modern portal without content-forked sub-pages, either as a topic list per Portal:Harz Mountains, or as a curated sent of semi-automated excerpts from articles as recently been done with Portal:Geophysics.

Per WP:PORTAL, "Portals serve as enhanced 'Main Pages' for specific broad subjects". But this is massively less useful in every respect than the B-class head article Sikhism, with its excellent navbox Template:Sikhism and its sidebar Template:Sikhism sidebar. The quality of the head article set a very high bar for a portal to climb, especially since two of the common features of portals have been made redundant by two newish features of Wikipedia:
 * 1) mouseover: for ordinary readers who are not logged in, mouseover on any of the linked list items shows you the picture and the start of the lead.  So the preview-selected page-function of portals is redundant: something almost as good is available automatically on any navbox or other set of links.
 * 2) automatic imagery galleries: for ordinary readers who are not logged in, clinking on an image brings up an image gallery of all the images on that page. It's full-screen, so it's actually better than even a click-for-next image gallery on a portal.

Similar features have been available since 2015 to users of Wikipedia's Android app.

So I propose that this portal and its sub-pages be deleted per WP:TNT, without prejudice to recreating a curated portal in accordance with whatever criteria the community may have agreed at that time. Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 02:29, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - Concurring with the comments of User:BrownHairedGirl and noting that she has changed the incantation. Robert McClenon (talk) 06:22, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete: portals are meant to be a curated, up-to-date navigational device for readers to browse a specific topic. Without curation, they do not meet their stated purpose.    SITH   (talk)   12:10, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - Abandoned draft of a portal, quite every item is only ONE of each, created 2005-12-04 05:34:11 by User:LatinoMuslim. Never went alive. Nothing special to keep. Portal:Sikhism. Pldx1 (talk) 16:50, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.