Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Strawberries

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was:  delete. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:08, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

Portal:Strawberries


Fully-automated portal. which draws its article list solely from the navbox Fragaria, of which it is therefore a redundant fork. (For a full explanation of why this type of portal is redundant, see the two mass deletions of similar portals: one, and two, where there was overwhelming consensus of a very high turnout to delete a total of 2,555 such portals).

There no un-automated version.

Note that this portal was previously discussed in March 2019 at WP:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Crabapples, a bundled nomination which was a bit of a WP:TRAINWRECK. The closer @Amorymeltzer wrote that the result for Portal:Strawberries is somewhere on the spectrum from no consensus to keep, closer to keep as I read it, with a hint of a slight-procedural keep to it.

Note that the first of the two mass nominations of navbox-forked portals closed on 14 April, the day after the close of previous discussion on this page ... so the cleat community consensus against navbox-forked portals had not been established which this was last discussed.

So as with the mass nominations of navbox-forked portals, I propose that this portal be deleted per WP:TNT, without prejudice to recreating a curated portal in accordance with whatever criteria the community may have agreed at that time. Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 18:10, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - I would have been Neutral on this, in view of its strange recent history, but I see that it is a fully automated portal, and fully automated portals don't do anything other than run up the count of the number of portals and act like navboxes (or like lists, or like outlines, or whatever). Robert McClenon (talk) 20:08, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment I repeat my suggestion from the previous discussion that this should be part of a wider portal - probably berries, and that the title should redirect there. I called that a merge last time, and stand by that description of what would be done to make it happen, but I don't have the energy now to defend it from those who seemingly strongly disagree with that. Thryduulf (talk) 12:41, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
 * @Thryduulf, the problem with that notion remains that:
 * there is nothing to merge. No list of topics, no subpages.
 * There is no Portal:Berries to redirect to.
 * If and when a Portal:Berries is created which actually meets the WP:PORTAL principle that "Portals serve as enhanced 'Main Pages' for specific broad subjects" — i.e one which actually adds value — then feel to make a redirect.
 * But a suggestion which amounts to "redirect to something non-existent" is no more plausible than last time. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 15:42, 13 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Create a creator and then let her create a Portal:Berries - Automated portal, 0 subpages, created 2018-10-27 03:27:18 by User:Northamerica1000, redundant to the existing articles and navboxes, and of lower quality: Portal:Strawberries. Page views: [|Portal:Strawberries|Portal:Strawberry|Cherry mflabs] (mind the plurals). Pldx1 (talk) 15:55, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
 * That's certainly one way to end the gender gap. &#8211; MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 18:59, 15 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete. Per nom. Another replication of the main article+navbox that adds little else, and that nobody is maintaining. Britishfinance (talk) 13:50, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.