Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:The Dark Tower

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was delete. Salvio Let's talk about it! 12:38, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

Portal:The Dark Tower
Relisted. Salvio Let's talk about it! 01:31, 18 June 2011 (UTC)



Dead portal. This has been completely inactive since 2009. Also note that two WikiProjects, Stephen King and The Dark Tower which had been both deleted back in March. JJ98 (Talk)  01:57, 10 June 2011 (UTC) 
 * Keep as the portal contains enough information to be very useful to someone not familiar with the series. It very nicely fulfills the purpose of a portal. Some portals (such as this one) require little, if any, updating. The portal is certainly not "dead", and deleting it because the related WikiProjects were deleted is not a valid reason for deletion. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe ·  Join WikiProject Japan ! 06:14, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment: What exactly is useful about this portal? The links? The navbox? Anything else? I don't know a lot about the subject and the portal isn't helping me. -- Klein zach  00:44, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete Only the navbox at the foot of the page seems viable and that's an independent template. The rest just looks only half-conceptualized. Better to just get rid of it. (The relevant project has also been deleted.) -- Klein zach  00:47, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Salvio  Let's talk about it! 01:31, 18 June 2011 (UTC)



Delete First off, I don't agree that deletion of related WikiProjects means that a portal ought to go too. Neither does a failure to update necessarily mean that the portal is worthless - as Nihonjoe says, some portals can be set up and left to run by themselves. However, I agree with Kleinzach about the content/approach of this portal. There might be a portal to be made out of this series of books – I don't know them well enough to say whether they could support one. But this isn't the way to do it. It looks nothing like any decent WP portal, and not in any way that I think is an improvement. It's uninformative and doesn't begin to tell me anything useful about the series. To learn anything, I'd have to navigate away from the portal, which defeats the whole point of a portal! A proper portal would have short "blurbs" for the books, characters, locations and the like that I could read to get an overview of the series, before deciding whether to explore some articles in more depth. As it is, once I've seen the portal page and moved back into articlespace, I'm better off moving around using the standard navbox at the bottom of the articles in the series, which (as Kleinzach says) is the only viable thing used here, rather than coming back to this portal. If someone wanted to make a proper WP portal, not a "dashboard portal" as described on the portal talk page, then they would be better off starting from scratch than trying to reshape this. BencherliteTalk 23:41, 21 June 2011 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.