Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Tibetan Buddhism

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was:  delete. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 20:39, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Portal:Tibetan Buddhism


Static micro-portal with no selection or rotation of content. Abandoned since creation in 2008, redundant to head articles and navbox.

Created in January 2006‎ by.

The list of sub-pages at Special:PrefixIndex/Portal:Tibetan Buddhism shows a slim set, with just one of everything:
 * Portal:Tibetan Buddhism/Selected article/1. Same topic (Jokhang Temple) since 2008.
 * Portal:Tibetan Buddhism/Selected biography/1. Same topic (1st Dalai Lama) since 2008
 * Portal:Tibetan Buddhism/Selected picture/1. Same image (File:Monks hurrying to services, Tashilhunpo.JPG) since 2008
 * Portal:Tibetan Buddhism/Did you know. Same 3 items since 2008, not on which appear to have ever appeared on WP:DYK.  As is often the case with portals, this is just a trivia section, contrary to WP:TRIVIA.

WP:POG says that unless automated, the content selection should be updated monthly, or preferably weekly. Even on a monthly cycle, this pseudo-portal has missed over 130 consecutive updates.

There is a theoretical case for arguing that this is a broad topic. But in practice, it has not met the WP:POG requirement that portals should be about "broad subject areas, which are likely to attract large numbers of interested readers and portal maintainers". It has consistently failed to attract maintainers, and in Jan–Feb 2019 it got only 11 pageviews per day, which is less than the abysmal median of 13 per day for all portals, and only 1.3% of the 779 daily views of the head article.

Per WP:PORTAL, "Portals serve as enhanced 'Main Pages' for specific broad subjects". But this is massively less useful in every respect than the head article Tibetan Buddhism and its sidebar Template:Tibetan Buddhism sidebar and navbox Template:TibetanBuddhism.

Two newish features of the Wikimedia software means that the article and navbox offers all the functionality which portals like this set out to offer. Both features are available only to ordinary readers who are not logged in, but you can test them without logging out by right-clicking on a link, and the select "open in private window" (in Firefox) or "open in incognito window" (Chrome).
 * 1) mouseover: on any link, mouseover shows you the picture and the start of the lead.  So the preview-selected page-function of portals is redundant: something almost as good is available automatically on any navbox or other set of links.  Try it by right-clicking on this link to Template:TibetanBuddhism, open in a private/incognito tab, and mouseover any link.
 * 2) automatic imagery galleries: clicking on an image brings up an image gallery of all the images on that page. It's full-screen, so it's actually much better than  a click-for-next image gallery on a portal.  Try it by right-clicking on this link to the article Tibetan Buddhism, open in a private/incognito tab, and then click on any image.

Similar features have been available since 2015 to users of Wikipedia's Android app.

That sets a high bar for any would-be-portal-builder to vault if they try to satisfy the WP:PORTAL principle that "Portals serve as enhanced 'Main Pages' for specific broad subjects". It would take a lot of work to make a portal which genuinely offers more than the head article Tibetan Buddhism and its sidebar Template:Tibetan Buddhism sidebar and navbox Template:TibetanBuddhism.

But maybe someone will find a way to make such a better portal, and a team of editors to maintain it ... so I propose that this portal and its sub-pages be deleted per WP:TNT, without prejudice to recreating a curated portal in accordance with whatever criteria the community may have agreed at that time. Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 02:37, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete: in theory the scope is wide enough, in practice it isn't, which is compounded by the lack of updates which make the portal fail its purpose.   SITH   (talk)   11:11, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - Concur with analysis by BHG. Robert McClenon (talk) 19:25, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - Abandoned draft of a portal, 25 subpages, created 2006-01-20 19:53:59 by User:Sylvain1972. Never went alive. Nothing to keep. Portal:Tibetan Buddhism. Pldx1 (talk) 11:06, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.