Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Time

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was:  delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:21, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Portal:Time

 * Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:03, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:03, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

Mini-portal abandoned since 2008, with some minor tweaks in 2018. It offers no added value to readers.

Created in March 2007‎ by, whose last edit was in 2016.

There is no selection of topics, and the list of sub-pages at Special:PrefixIndex/Portal:Chromology shows a an initally encouraging set of pages, but most of it is just duplicates, and the rest is outdated:


 * Portal:Time/Did you know, same 5 items since 2008. Per WP:DYK, "The DYK section showcases new or expanded articles that are selected through an informal review process. It is not a general trivia section" ... but this eleven-your-old list loses the newness, so its only effect is as a trivia section
 * Portal:Time/Selected biography/1, created in 2018, but it's actually just a copy of Portal:Time/Selected biography archive/May 2008
 * Portal:Time/Selected biography/2, created in 2018, but it's actually just a copy of Portal:Time/Selected biography archive/June 2008
 * Portal:Time/Selected Article is the same topic (atomic clock) since it was created in 2008 ... but it's actaully unsued, because May 2009, the porta has been displaying some stattic text about Chronometer watch, under heading which displays the current month and year.

Per WP:PORTAL, "Portals serve as enhanced 'Main Pages' for specific broad subjects". But this is massively less useful in every respect than the head article Time and its navboxes Time topics, Time measurement and standards, Chronology, Time in religion and mythology, Time topics and Time in philosophy.

Two newish features of the Wikimedia software means that the head article offers most of the functionality which portasl like this set out to offer. Both features are available only to ordinary readers who are not logged in, but you can test them without logging out by right-clicking on a link, and the select "open in private window" (in Firefox) or "open in incongnito window" (Chrome).
 * 1) mouseover: on any of the link, mouseover shows you the picture and the start of the lead.  So the preview-selected page-function of portals is redundant: something almost as good is available automatically on any navbox or other set of links.  Try it on head article Time and its navboxes.
 * 2) automatic imagery galleries: clicking on an image brings up an image gallery of all the images on that page. It's full-screen, so it's actually much better than even a click-for-next image gallery on a portal.   Try it on Time, via this link: Time.

Similar features have been available since 2015 to users of Wikipedia's Android app.

WP:POG says that unless automated, the content selection should be updated monthly, or preferably weekly. Even on a monthly cycle, this pseudo-portal has missed over 120 consecutive updates, and it is time to stop wasting the time of readers by luring them to this abandoned draft.

Yes, this is in theory a broad topic. Wikipedia has extensive coverage of topics related to time, but this portal does nothing to help readers sample or navigate it. But WP:POG guides that portals should be about "broad subject areas, which are likely to attract large numbers of interested readers and portal maintainers", and this has not attracted maintainers.

So I propose that this portal and its sub-pages be deleted per WP:TNT, without prejudice to recreating a curated portal in accordance with whatever criteria the community may have agreed at that time. Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 21:01, 17 May 2019 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete - This portal and Portal:Chronology largely overlap, but neither of them has attracted readers, although the topics have. This portal has had 45 daily pageviews (although some of that has been due to vandalism), and the head article has had 2616 daily pageviews.  This portal is not being maintained.  (The fact that it has been vandalized repeatedly is not a reason to Keep or Delete, only to watch it and to revert it.)  Robert McClenon (talk) 14:51, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:03, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - Abandoned draft of a portal, 58 subpages, created 2007-03-30 15:51:12 by User:Vigeesh. Never went alive. Nothing to keep. Portal:Time. Pldx1 (talk) 09:31, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom.--Srleffler (talk) 19:42, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete: unmaintained, questionable scope, forks navboxes.   SITH   (talk)   11:38, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.