Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Transnational child protection

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was: Delete. — xaosflux  Talk 16:09, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

Portal:Transnational child protection


Very narrow topic. Abandoned since 2016.

Created in March 2016‎ by ,who lasted edited in late 2016. The disclosures at User:Hipersons asserts exertise in the field.

Special:PrefixIndex/Portal:Transnational child protection, shows a small set of set of sub-pages unchanged since 2016.

This fails the core point of POG, its lead, which currently reads [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Portal/Guidelines&oldid=894467601Please bear in mind that portals should be about broad subject areas, which are likely to attract large numbers of interested readers and portal maintainers. Portals which require manual updating are at a greater risk of nomination for deletion if they are not kept up to date. Do not expect other editors to maintain a portal you create.]

Similar wording has been in place for over 12 years. The lead of the September 2006‎ version says [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Portal/Guidelines&oldid=73728473 Please bear in mind that portals should be about broad subject areas, which are likely to attract large numbers of interested readers and portal maintainers. Do not create a portal if you do not intend to assist in its regular maintenance.]

WP:POG guides that portals should be about "broad subject areas, which are likely to attract large numbers of interested readers and portal maintainers". This narrow-topic portal has not attracted any maintainers since the portal's creator stopped editing.

I was initially struck by the apparently extensive list of sub-topics at Portal:Transnational child protection/Topics. However, I ran it through AWB's list-making tools, and it actually contains links to only 15 unique articles, plus the head article Transnational child protection. the rest is just redirects or sub-pages. That set is crying out for a navbox, so I made Transnational child protection, and added it to to the appropriate pages.

All the article sub-pages are included in the navbox Transnational child protection:
 * Portal:Transnational child protection/Selected article/1: article Child migration
 * Portal:Transnational child protection/Selected article/2: article Transnational child protection
 * Portal:Transnational child protection/Selected article/3: article Unaccompanied minor
 * Portal:Transnational child protection/Selected article/4: article Best interests

Two newish features of the Wikimedia software means that the article and navboxes offers all the functionality which portals like this set out to offer. Both features are available only to ordinary readers who are not logged in, but you can test them without logging out by right-clicking on a link, and the select "open in private window" (in Firefox) or "open in incognito window" (Chrome).
 * 1) mouseover: on any link, mouseover shows you the picture and the start of the lead.  So the preview-selected page-function of portals is redundant: something almost as good is available automatically on any navbox or other set of links.  Try it on e.g. Transnational child protection.
 * 2) automatic imagery galleries: clicking on an image brings up an image gallery of all the images on that page. It's full-screen, so it's actually much better than  a click-for-next image gallery on a portal.

Similar features have been available since 2015 to users of Wikipedia's Android app. Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 05:38, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

Any bias towards the European situation is unintentional. All efforts to ensure the global situation is represented are warmly encouraged."''
 * PS See the note at Portal:Transnational child protection/About this portal's team: ''"This portal, along with relevant newly created or expanded articles, was initiated by a consortium of experts who assigned one person to execute the work. The planning, writing, editing and execution was partially funded by the European Commission's Return Fund. Further funding is being sought to expand the scope, further improve existing pages, and train a small community of experts in how to help build the portal.
 * Given the lack of development, it would appear that the plans did not materialise. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 05:47, 20 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Weak Delete because this is a strange case in terms of pageview metrics. The portal is the primary means by which the small number of readers read about the subject.  The head article has 4 daily pageviews.  The portal has 5 daily pageviews.  What was really needed was the navbox that User:BrownHairedGirl has supplied.  This is a case where the task force started out to do a job and didn't finish the job.  The portal doesn't do any harm, but the navbox does the same functions.  Robert McClenon (talk) 14:58, 20 May 2019 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.