Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Turkish Armed Forces

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was:  delete. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 22:07, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

Portal:Turkish Armed Forces


Abandoned portal which has never worked.

Created in August 2014‎ by, who hasn't edited since 2016 and whose last edit to this portal was only two days after its creation.. The lead of WP:POG has said since late 2006 "Do not create a portal if you do not intend to assist in its regular maintenance", but that has not happened here.

Special:PrefixIndex/Portal:Turkish Armed Forces shows a modest set of sub-pages, but with gaps in the numbering. So we have:
 * Portal:Turkish Armed Forces/Selected article/1 to Portal:Turkish Armed Forces/Selected article/5 and then Portal:Turkish Armed Forces/Selected article/8, but no /6 or /7.
 * Portal:Turkish Armed Forces/Selected biography/3 to /7, but no /1 or /2.

As a result, most versions of the portal are a sea of redlkinks, such as this April 2017 version. So In September 2017 it was stripped back to this version with no selected anything. That's how it has remained since, with just an intro and a category list.

Per WP:PORTAL, "Portals serve as enhanced 'Main Pages' for specific broad subjects". But this is abandoned junk doesn't even try to add anything to the head article Turkish Armed Forces and its navbox Template:Military of Turkey.

Two newish features of the Wikimedia software means that the article and navboxes offers all the functionality which portals like this set out to offer. Both features are available only to ordinary readers who are not logged in, but you can test them without logging out by right-clicking on a link, and the select "open in private window" (in Firefox) or "open in incognito window" (Chrome).
 * 1) mouseover: on any link, mouseover shows you the picture and the start of the lead.  So the preview-selected page-function of portals is redundant: something almost as good is available automatically on any navbox or other set of links.  Try it by right-clicking on this link to Template:Military of Turkey, open in a private/incognito tab, and mouseover any link.
 * 2) automatic imagery galleries: clicking on an image brings up an image gallery of all the images on that page. It's full-screen, so it's actually much better than  a click-for-next image gallery on a portal.   Try it by right-clicking on this link to the article Turkish Armed Forces, open in a private/incognito tab, and click on any image to start the slideshow

Similar features have been available since 2015 to users of Wikipedia's Android app.

WP:POG requires that portals be about "broad subject areas, which are likely to attract large numbers of interested readers and portal maintainers"' ...but this one hasn't even attracted anyone who will make it work, let alone maintain it. Maybe someday someone will build and maintain a portal on this topic which actually adds value for readers. But if so, they will do better to start afresh, rather than building on this abandoned relic.

So I propose that this portal and its sub-pages be deleted per WP:TNT, without prejudice to recreating a curated portal in accordance with whatever criteria the community may have agreed at that time. Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 20:59, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - Concur with analysis by BHG. It isn't surprising that the portal has an average of only 6 daily pageviews, as opposed to 557 for the article.  Robert McClenon (talk) 03:34, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Agreed, delete - There's little point in wasting time maintaining a resource nobody's using. Cadar (talk) 12:01, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Buckshot06 (talk) 14:08, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - Abandoned draft of a portal, 22  subpages, created 2014-08-21 22:23:02 by User:Lubunya. Never went alive. Displays nothing. Nothing to keep. Portal:Turkish Armed Forces. Pldx1 (talk) 13:28, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - I agree, we should delete this portal. If it's not in use, then what's the point? Eric Schucht (talk) 02:04, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.