Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:UK railways

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was:  delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 20:04, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

Portal:UK railways


Misconceived mini-portal abandoned for about 10 years.

The fundamental problem with this portal is its scope: the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

As explained at the short Rail transport in the United Kingdom, the island of Great Britain and island of Ireland have each have their own, separate rail systems. Each island has an integrated network. The two networks are not interconnected, because the Irish Sea separates them. And even if someone built a bridge across the Irish sea, they still couldn't be joined up, because the Irish network uses Irish gauge (1,600 mm) while the British network uses standard gauge (1,435 mm).

So the substantive articles are:
 * Rail transport in Ireland — all of the island of Ireland, covering Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland
 * Rail transport in Great Britain — covering England, Scotland and Wales

Given this misconceived scope, it is unsurprising that the portal has been abandoned. Any attempt to build a real portal here should follow the scope of the articles.

Created in October 2006‎ by.

Special:PrefixIndex/Portal:UK railways shows a mixed set:
 * 9 pictures
 * A set of empty month/year article pages, each of which has been blak sibce creation:
 * Portal:UK railways/Selected article/2008/July
 * Portal:UK railways/Selected article/2008/August
 * Portal:UK railways/Selected article/2008/September
 * Portal:UK railways/Selected article/2008/October
 * Portal:UK railways/Selected article/2008/November
 * Portal:UK railways/Selected article/2008/December
 * Two month pages were moved in 2013 to numbered pages:
 * → Portal:UK railways/Selected article/1. Same topic (City and South London Railway) since creation in 2008
 * → Portal:UK railways/Selected article/2. Same topic (SR Merchant Navy Class) since creation in 2008
 * Portal:UK railways/Did you know. No additions or removals since 2009.. Per WP:DYK, "The DYK section showcases new or expanded articles that are selected through an informal review process. It is not a general trivia section" ... but this 10-year-old list loses the newness, so its only effect is as a trivia section, contrary to WP:TRIVIA.
 * Portal:UK railways/Articles, not currently used in the articles. It's a list with only minor tweaks since 2009,  it is way out-of-date.  For example, many of train operating companies have chnanged since then.

So the scope is wrong, and there's nothing worth keeping. Please just Delete it. Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 17:43, 20 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete as creator I'd been pondering nominating it myself. It never really took off in any meaningful way. There's still a fair chunk of the content I wrote originally for the Portal still on the Portal's main page. The complexity of the two rail different networks and systems BHG presents above were never properly resolved and I don't think really can be easily disentangled. Nick (talk) 20:17, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - Concur with the analysis by BHG and with the statement by the portal author. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:42, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.