Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Urdu

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was:  delete. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 01:17, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

Portal:Urdu


Micro-portal on the Urdu language. Abandoned since 2012, with nothing of value.

Created in October 2012‎ by, whose last portalspace edit was later in October 2012 and who was blocked in 2017 as a sockpuppet.

It avoided the rash of converting portals to automated forks of a navbox.

However, Special:PrefixIndex/Portal:Urdu is a very limited set of sub-pages:
 * Portal:Urdu/DYK isn't a DYK at all. It's just a paragraph with no article linked to its core theme, which is that Urdu is one of the two official languages of Pakistan
 * Portal:Urdu/Quote is unchanged since is creation in 2012
 * Portal:Urdu/Selected article, unchanged since creation in 2012 as, which is just a redirect to Urdu. Pointless
 * Portal:Urdu/ Selected picture, same picture as on creation in 2012 ... but unused in the article since 17 January 2019, when @The Transhumanist changed the code to make the portal slurp images from the head article Urdu and Pakistani literature.  This was a bad move, because:
 * automatic imagery galleries are already built into head the head article, as for any other article. For ordinary readers who are not logged in, clinking on an image brings up an image gallery of all the images on that page. It's full-screen, so it's actually better than even a click-for-next image gallery on a portal.  Similar features have been available since 2015 to users of Wikipedia's Android app.
 * Including Pakistani literature ignore the polylingual nature of that topic: It covers is Pakistani literature in Urdu, English, Punjabi, Seraiki, Balochi, Pushto and Sindhi.
 * Including Pakistani literature unbalances the selection. There are 5 times as many Urdu speakers in India as in Pakistan.

In these cases I usually note the lack of updates. In this case there are none, but the more significant factor is that there is almost nothing here that isn't already in the head article. Per WP:PORTAL, "Portals serve as enhanced 'Main Pages' for specific broad subjects". But this is massively less useful in every respect than the head article Urdu and its navbox Urdu topics.

In theory, this language with 100 million speakers is a broad topic. But in practice, it has not met the WP:POG requirement that portals should be about "broad subject areas, which are likely to attract large numbers of interested readers and portal maintainers". This has not attracted maintainers, and in Jan–Feb 2019 got only 12 pageviews per day

It is time to stop wasting the time of readers by luring them to this abandoned draft. This abandoned relic has not attracted maintainers in 7 years, so there is no reason to expect that it will imminently attract magical editors who want to give it some actual content. If any editor does want to build a real portal, they will be far better off without this minimalist relic; instead they should build a modern portal without content-forked sub-pages. There are several examples, but here are two v difft ones: Portal:Mecklenburg-Vorpommern and Portal:Geophysics.

So I propose that this portal and its sub-pages be deleted per WP:TNT, without prejudice to recreating a curated portal in accordance with whatever criteria the community may have agreed at that time. Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 21:04, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - Yet another sock portal. Also as argued by BHG.  Robert McClenon (talk) 23:29, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete:
 * WP:PORTALs require active maintenance and curation to fulfil their raison d'etre.
 * Does not currently meet WP:POG, but active maintenance after curated recreation may change this.
 * So currently, it's delete.   SITH   (talk)   10:57, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.