Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Weasels

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was:  delete. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 03:55, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

Portal:Weasels

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1/ narrow scope, 2/ duplicates the navbox, and is less useful than the navbox. The navbox is present on all articles in the set, and displays a full list on each occasion ... whereas the portal is on a separate page, and links to only one item a time.

Please note that this is NOT a portal based on a navbox. It's a portal made 4 months ago with a its own list, but which should have been a navbox, because the scope is small enough to make a modest-sized navbox. So I made Template:Weasels.

The navbox does a better job, because:
 * the navbox appears on every page in the set, whereas the portal (if linked) requires navigation to a separate page.
 * the navbox displays a full list of the articles, but the portal only shows them one at time

The only possible advantage that I can see to the portal is that some editors may prefer the one-at-a-time snippet view mode of the portal. However, that doesn't apply for readers, because readers already get a preview off the links.

Editors may not be aware of this, so try a little experiment. Use your web browser's "open in private window" function to view Template:Weasels. That will show the page logged out, just any casual reader.

What you'll see then is that mouseover on any of the linked list items shows you the picture and the start of the lede.

This is hidden from editors who use WP:POPUPS to provide an editing/analysis menu in place of the preview, but most of our readers (for whom we create this stuff) are not logged in. Using the default view of Wikipedia, the bare list of bears actually gives readers much the same functionality as the so-called "portal" view, but without all the overhead of a "portal". I have tested this in Opera, Firefox, Google Chrome, and MS Edge; it works on all of them.

So the so-called "portal" is just a clumsy way of doing what the Wikimedia software already does by default. It's an un-needed, duplicative, superfluous product of the department of redundancy department. A kinda Rube Goldberg machine. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 16:16, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete as noted by BrownHairedGirl.
 * In referring to mouseover, should that be weaselover (and yes, I know that they belong to different orders)?
 * Be sure to rule out the woozle effect in checking whether the portal is needed.
 * Without prejudice to a curated portal. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:21, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
 * This is a curated portal, in the sense that the articles were hand-picked. As the nominator explains, the navbox (which is not used as a source) post-dates the portal. Espresso Addict (talk) 01:28, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
 * If you examine the set, you'll see that they weren't so much hand-picked as shovelled en masse from Category:Weasels. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 03:05, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
 * And yet you recreated them as a navbox. Espresso Addict (talk) 03:43, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Indeed. Per WP:CLS, it's common practice. --  Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 10:27, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete no better than Portal:Skunks or other single type of animal portals we have axed. Legacypac (talk) 02:14, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete  - Automated portal,  0 subpages, created 2019-01-22 09:03:38 by User:TTH, to be deleted: Portal:Weasels. Pldx1 (talk) 09:38, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete: another automated job, no prejudice against thoughtful, curated recreation.  SITH   (talk)   12:35, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.