Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Sarah Palin redirect talk pages


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was Mixed - Keep Talk:Bristol Palin and Talk:Levi Johnston so they can be discussed as splits from Sarah Palin and because editprotected requests appeare to be frequently necessary to fix the section linked from the redirect as the target changes (although consensus here seemed to be keep, compare the result at Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Talk:Track_Palin where talk page was recently userfied and redirected to Talk:Sarah Palin); Talk:Bristol palin deleted per discussion here and Speedy R3 and Salted due to multiple recreations of this talk page of an unlikely redirect which will always remain at most a redirect. Although not within the jurisdiction of MfD, Bristol Palin Controversy unprotected and deleted on sight as Speedy R3 (and improperly named article - controversy shouldn't be capitalized), Talk:Bristol Palin Controversy then deleted per Speedy G8 and discussion here. Doug.(talk • contribs) 01:10, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Bristol Palin, Talk:Bristol palin, Talk:Bristol Palin Controversy, and Talk:Levi Johnston
Of the 30+ redirects to the Sarah Palin article, only these four redirect talk pages remain active. If articles eventually are created on any of these four topics, the will come from an outgrowth of the Sarah Palin article and discussion on the the Sarah Palin article talk page, not from redirect talk page discussion. Deleting these four unneeded talk pages will mean four less Sarah Palin pages to watch. -- Suntag (talk) 00:59, 12 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep Talk:Bristol Palin. Talk:Bristol Palin page is the appropriate place to explain why we shouldn't discuss whether we should have a separate article on Bristol.  If deleted, it will be recreated within a few days, I am certain. Delete Talk:Bristol palin  There is nothing really to discuss about a redirect from alternative capitalization. Delete the mainspace page of Talk:Bristol Palin Controversy.  This redirect serves little purpose.  People who are searching for Bristol Palin will find that redirect and/or the article on Sarah Palin. -- Robert A.West (Talk) 01:21, 12 September 2008 (UTC)


 * If we delete these pages and someone re-creates them, admins can re-delete them as re-creations of deleted content and eventually salt them. I don't foresee this being an unsolvable problem.--chaser - t 02:17, 12 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep partly per Robert A West, who's right about discussing page creation on the talk pages. Of these, only Talk:Bristol Palin is particularly active and I've seen no BLP violations so far.--chaser - t 02:17, 12 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep There doesn't seem to be an issue here. -- Ned Scott 05:29, 12 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep Discussion of these redirects should be left open to editors, even if the redirects themselves stay, with protection, for who knows how long. Gwen Gale (talk) 05:31, 12 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep, redirects are cheap. Redirecting these talk pages (and the other 26, if it were up to me) to Talk:Sarah Palin prevents (re)creation while still pointing people to the appropriate talk page location. Fish karate  08:39, 12 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep. Redirects are appropriate here, and no need to suppress histories.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 09:19, 12 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep. Otherwise, people will just say the same things over on Talk:Sarah Palin, which is voluminous enough already.  Coemgenus 12:42, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep good reasons taken.  Dloh  cierekim  13:16, 12 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete Bristol palin Any such redirect as Bristol palin does not need to be created. The only reason to create a redirect dealing in capitalization is to redirect to target article titles with mixed capitalization, e.g. In the Heat of the Night (novel). Can admins please nuke articles that are merely unnecessary redirects of the "Bristol palin" sort? They annoy the hell out of me. Thanks. 86.44.27.188 (talk) 23:16, 12 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Move to Talk:Bristol Palin to a subpage like so: Talk:Sarah Palin/Bristol Palin. This satisfies the concern that focusing all the information on Talk:Sarah Palin might overwhelm the page. It is one more page to watch, but I think it would aid in keeping things down... Delete Talk:Bristol palin and Talk:Levi Johnson for having no little to no-content in their histories. Not sure on Talk:Bristol Palin Controversy, though I think that could be served as redirect to Talk:Sarah Palin/Bristol Palin... --Izno (talk) 14:56, 13 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete Talk:Levi Johnston and Talk:Bristol palin; keep the other two, as they actually contain significant discussion. Some of the comments above seem to have missed the point somewhat, in that this is not about whether the redirects should be deleted, but whether their talk pages should be. I don't have a problem with the redirects, but don't see the need to keep an empty or nearly empty talkpage; it's difficult to imagine there ever being anything to discuss at Talk:Bristol palin, which is the talk page of a redirect from a misspelling. (Before this nomination, it was apparently being used to host spam links.) Terraxos (talk) 16:46, 14 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep These are all valid to eventually fork out later, especially if the Republicans win the election when inevitable (lets be honest here) press arrives. Revisit this in mid-November, and skip the CRYSTALBALL commentary in favor of COMMONSENSE :). rootology ( C )( T ) 06:48, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * In what universe is Talk:Bristol_palin valid? Bristol palin shouldn't even exist. 86.44.29.211 (talk) 12:32, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.