Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Super Monkey Ball project and portal


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellany page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was Various:
 * Userfied the Portal, if there is a new wiki it can be transwiki'd, until then it can sit in userspace.
 * Delete the project shortcut
 * Delete the new stubs type category
 * Delete the new stub type template
 * Userfied the userbox as per WP:GUS
 * Moved to project to a task force at WikiProject Video games/Super Monkey Ball task force.
 * Note, any moves to suersapce may be SD'd upon authors request, and moves can be renamed as needed in the namesapces/subnamespaces they are now in. — xaosflux  Talk  20:07, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Super Monkey Ball project and portal
I'm nominating several items together for deletion, listed below. You may register separate opinions on the various pages, but I felt it was most productive to discuss these in a single discussion. Both the project and the portal are the work of a single contributor, User:Masky. The portal was created in November, and remains uncompleted. The scope of the subject matter is too narrow for a portal, and I see it as unlikely that this will have either enough content or interest to justify a portal even if it was active or completed. The Wikiproject was created in December. The scope of the project is also narrow, focusing on a single series of video games. To date, a single editor other than Masky (User:Knuckles sonic8) has joined the project. Basically, my issue with the project is that this appears to be the project of a single person (or perhaps two people) being organized in Wikipedia project space. My argument to delete the portal is stronger, but I don't see an active collaborative project here either so I'm nominating both. —Doug Bell talk 21:08, 17 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Portal:Super Monkey Ball
 * Portal:Super Monkey Ball/Categories
 * Portal:Super Monkey Ball/Did you know
 * Portal:Super Monkey Ball/Discussion
 * Portal:Super Monkey Ball/Intro
 * Portal:Super Monkey Ball/PortalCode
 * Portal:Super Monkey Ball/PortalFame
 * Portal:Super Monkey Ball/Portal news
 * Moved WikiProject Super Monkey Ball to [[
 * Portal:Super Monkey Ball/Quotes
 * Portal:Super Monkey Ball/Related portals
 * Portal:Super Monkey Ball/Selected article
 * Portal:Super Monkey Ball/Selected biography
 * Portal:Super Monkey Ball/Selected picture
 * Portal:Super Monkey Ball/Super Monkey Ball news
 * Portal:Super Monkey Ball/Super Monkey Ball topics
 * Portal:Super Monkey Ball/Templates
 * Portal:Super Monkey Ball/Things you can do
 * Portal:Super Monkey Ball/Topics
 * Portal:Super Monkey Ball/WikiProjects
 * Portal:Super Monkey Ball/box-footer
 * Portal:Super Monkey Ball/box-header
 * WikiProject Super Monkey Ball
 * Template:WikiProject:Super Monkey Ball/Userbox
 * Template:SMB WikiProject
 * WP:SMB
 * Category:Members of WikiProject:Super Monkey Ball
 * User:Masky/Templates/Stubs/SMB
 * Category:SMB stubs


 * Strong delete for the Portal. Weak delete for the WikiProject. Per Portal/Guidelines, "portals should be about broad subject areas, which are likely to attract large numbers of interested readers and portal maintainers". This clearly not the case here. As to the Wikiproject, it doesn't seem necessary to have a project to coordinate the efforts of one and a half contributors. Support should ideally have been gauged at WikiProject Council/Proposals before it was created but its pretty harmless and doesn't have that many pages... WjBscribe 21:18, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
 * As an alternative to deleting the Wikiproject, is there a larger viodeogame-related Wikiproject that could take the Project pages under its wing as a Sub-Project or Taskforce? WjBscribe 21:26, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
 * WikiProject Video games is a fairly large and active project. That would be the place to ask this question. —Doug Bell talk 21:45, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Move portal to my userspace Maybe I can somehow move the portal to my userspace so the entire Wikipedia community won't know about it really, and when it has enough people, then it can move back out. If that is not aloud, then delete. Also, keep the SMB stub because it may help stub future Super Monkey Ball articles. Masky (Talk |  contribs) 21:22, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Just use Template:Videogame-software-stub. You don't need such a narrowly-defined stub and stub category. —Doug Bell talk 21:33, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment. The attempted stub type, along with the equally useless User:Masky/Templates/Stubs/LOL and Category:LOL stubs are up for deletion at WP:SFD. If they are both deleted, then the subpage User:Masky/Templates/Stubs should probably be added to the above list. Grutness...wha?  23:38, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Why delete my LOL Stub and Stub Template page? It's not like the LOL Stub will send Wikipedia to its flames. Masky (Talk |  contribs) 12:30, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
 * By itself, no, but consider this. if one person has their own user stub types, then sooner or later other editors will want them. Soon we'd get into the sort of mess we got into with userboxes. And userboxes are there simply as a bit of fun, whereas stub types serve an important purpose in the editing of Wikipedia's articles. That is why stub templates are fairly closely controlled on WP, to discourage the creation of even ones which are of borderline use within template space. A gradual proliferation of frivolous stub templates or user-space stub templates would defeat the purpose of stub sorting. And you cannot guarantee that this would prove to be a precedent for just that sort of proliferation. Grutness...wha?  00:19, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete both per nom and WjBscribe. Clock Accelerator 02:17, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Userfy the Portal and Move the Project to WikiProject Video games/Super Monkey Ball - I believe the author of the portal supported userfication and WikiProject RuneScape (again, another project for a single game) became a task force of it's parent project WikiProject MMO as even though it has a limited scope, sometimes it's needed, although a full project is not necessary. Greeves (talk • contribs) 18:47, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Just a note, but userfying the portal doesn't make sense. The main basis to delete it is that the scope is too narrow.  That won't be fixed in user space.  Userfying a portal is something that should almost never, if not never, be done.  So the decision should either be to delete or not delete. —Doug Bell talk 03:14, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I would have said delete the portal, but I don't mind if the author keeps it in their userspace. Greeves (talk • contribs) 04:25, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom - not enough interest by users. YechielMan 20:11, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Move to Super Monkey Ball Wiki I've finally set up a Super Monkey Ball Wiki where it will greatly accept the Portal and WikiProject. But how do I get the portal working properly on my wiki? The link to the Wiki is in my profile, and I'm currently moving the WikiProject over. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Masky (talk • contribs) 21:29, 19 March 2007 (UTC).
 * Delete the portal and move WikiProject to WikiProject Video games/Super Monkey Ball The topic doesn't seem broad enough for a Portal, no matter how you slice it. However, they can keep their wikiproject, in the same sense that the RuneScape guys are now a subproject of something else. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 05:51, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.