Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Talk:2022 Pacific typhoon season/ACE calcs

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was:  delete. ✗ plicit  11:59, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Talk:2022 Pacific typhoon season/ACE calcs

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There is a standing WP:WPTC consensus that JTWC data should not be used for calculating ACE as it's not RSMC data. There is also consensus that we need to stop calculating ACE on our own. Jasper Deng (talk) 06:14, 14 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete - I am in agreement with Jasper that we shouldn't calculate the Accumulated Cyclonic Energy that a season has as it smacks of original research in my opinion. For the Western Pacific in particular we can not derive just one number based on one warning centre as unlike other basins there is no single voice with each NMHSS deciding how intense a system is based on a variety of factors. As a result, I am forced to vote delete to this research page.Jason Rees (talk) 12:28, 14 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Weak Delete - This is original research, but should have been discussed with the WikiProject (even if the WikiProject is on trial). Robert McClenon (talk) 18:41, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment - I would !vote to delete if I could verify the consensuses at WP:WPTC that the nom mentioned, but all I found was a consensus that self-calculated ACE data may be used absent any official data. WikiProject Tropical Cyclones doesn't seem to all agree on whether or not the ACE calcs they produce violate WP:NOR, but if they ever do agree that they are an unacceptable violation of the policy against original research, then all of the countless "/ACE calcs" subpages out there will have to be nominated for deletion en masse.  Vanilla  Wizard  💙 19:21, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Tropical_cyclones/Archive_43 indeed is that RfC; CSU provides WPAC (typhoon) statistics so this is not a case covered by that exemption.--Jasper Deng (talk) 00:21, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I see, thank you for clarifying this. In that case, I support deleting this subpage.  Vanilla  Wizard  💙 03:32, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
 * It is also worth noting that Talk:2020 Pacific typhoon season/ACE calcs was deleted a few years ago via the MFD process.Jason Rees (talk) 13:18, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
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