Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Talk:Rasputin's penis

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was  Redirect to Talk:Grigori Rasputin. --RL0919 (talk) 22:26, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Rasputin's penis


not encyclopedic man with one red shoe 05:29, 30 November 2011 (UTC)


 * The article page, Rasputin's penis, was merged into the main biography. It can be helpful to retain the talk pages of merged articles, and this one seems particularly long. I don't see a good reason for deletion.   Will Beback    talk    05:42, 30 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your comment, I looked at "what links here" https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/Rasputin%27s_penis&limit=500 and didn't see anything fundamental that would suffer from the deletion, I don't see a good reason to keep this non-encyclopedic page. man with one red shoe 14:35, 30 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Could you explain why you think it is non-encyclopedic? A better explanation of your rationale would help; talk pages are usually retained after an article is merged.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 02:27, 1 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep. We keep talk pages of merged articles. There is no reason to delete it. -- Bduke   (Discussion)  02:46, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep or redirect to Talk:Grigori Rasputin as per the article. No reason for deletion.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 07:09, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
 * What on Earth. Bduke has this right. Please don't nominate any further talk pages of merged articles for deletion. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 12:15, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I actually made a mistake, I wanted to nominate Rasputin's penis redirect, not its talk page. And the reason is that 1. as seen in the "what links here" that page is not really needed, and 2. common sense says that most of the people search for "Rasputin" not for "Rasputin penis" and 3. it makes Wikipedia looks ridiculous with all kind of in-joke redirects (like: Do not want for example) man with one red shoe 15:09, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Not only would that not be permitted under our rules for attribution, it's also incorrect: a redirect is not silly simply because in includes the word "penis", and that subject is actually of sufficient notability as to be a vlid redirect. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 19:08, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Let's get serious, the word "penis" is used exactly ONCE in the entire Grigori Rasputin article, I don't see the need for a Rasputin's penis redirect, I don't see anybody searching for that instead of "Rasputin", I don't see any links to that page except for some talk pages and nominations for deletions. There's no reasonable explanation for keeping it, let's not hide under "policy", "arbitration rules" when there's no real encyclopedic reason for keeping the redirect. man with one red shoe 00:16, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * In support of the redirect, the subject is covered directly in reliable sources. It may or may not meet WP:N, but it is enough for something to be written in wikipedia.  Given that, it should be accepted as a reasonable serch term.  The occurance of the term at least once in the target is the bright line.  Further, it is not a stretch to imagine expansion in future, given the local interst at the time.  As there was once policy-compliant material under the title, and this material was merged to the target, keeping the history available behind the redirect is appropriate.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 02:12, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Most of the discussion in the talk page is about how stupid the article was. Just because something is mentioned once in an article and is referenced it doesn't warrant a redirect. But I give up, I'm clearly the minority here, and the minority is always wrong. man with one red shoe 02:29, 2 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Talk:Grigori Rasputin. SmokeyJoe's argument is persuasive on this. -- Klein zach  02:34, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Archive talk page at Talk:Rasputin's penis/Archive 2, and then redirect to Talk:Grigori Rasputin. Adding notes for Archive 1 and 2 for the penis article at the archivebox for Rasputin. 70.24.248.23 (talk) 08:19, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment I am boldly archiving the talk page to Talk:Rasputin's penis/Archive2, since Talk:Rasputin's penis/Archive1 already exists. As if this is deleted, the subpages will also be deleted, I anticipate this will cause no problems. 70.24.248.23 (talk) 04:54, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Agree with this archive. Now redirect.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 07:35, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.