Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Template:User No Xe

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was:  delete. ‑Scottywong | prattle _ 18:32, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Template:User No Xe


The template is useless and divisive. The point of pronoun userboxes is to indicate personal preference, not opinions about others' pronouns. —S. Jevtić talk&middot;contribs 15:38, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per "userboxes must not be inflammatory or divisive“ - WP:UBCR  OxonAlex    - talk  20:51, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete divisive and might actually hinder collaboration. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 23:49, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete as divisive. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:18, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. Not sufficiently extreme.  There are many language purists volunteering at Wikipedia, and they have their part to play.  Others, User:Uncle G comes immediately to mind, uses these new spelling to advance the language.  Better to be upfront and honest about these opinions than to slip down the path to unconscious bias.  The userbox is not useless.  Is there any evidence of disruptive division?  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 02:40, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
 * The purpose of pronoun userboxes is to indicate which pronouns one prefers, and not which pronouns one refuses to use. To quote the guidelines on WP:UBX:
 * Userboxes must not include incivility or personal attacks.
 * Userboxes must not be inflammatory or divisive.
 * Wikipedia is not an appropriate place for propaganda, advocacy, or recruitment of any kind, commercial, political, religious, or otherwise, opinion pieces on current affairs or politics, self-promotion, or advertising.
 * Furthermore:
 * Avoid verbs (often followed by the word "that") which may be used to suggest negative comparison and would thus be potentially divisive, such as:
 * believes, considers, finds, knows, prefers, thinks, wishes.
 * ...and I think that this rule couldn't apply more to adjectives such as "ugly" and "stupid". —S. Jevtić talk&middot;contribs 17:53, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
 * You have an overly restrictive view on the purpose of userboxes. You ignore the purpose of declaring one's POVs.  Also, I think the statement is definitely OK generally on a userpage. WP:UBCR includes:"Simply: If content is not appropriate on other parts of a user page, it is not appropriate within userboxes."  It's merely a statement of opinion about the use of these invented gender neutral pronouns, it's a statement going to liberal vs conservative views on the use of English, specifically the gender-neutral pronouns based on the letter "x".  I find them a bit ugly too, preferring the singular they. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 00:34, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
 * If you read the userbox, you can see that it's actually against all gender-neutral pronouns, not just the ones starting with an X. And that they should never be used; thereby essentially insulting every person who doesn't use male, female, or singular they pronouns. If it were something along the lines of “This user dislikes using the letter X for gender neutrality”, I wouldn't really mind. Even if it were harsher, like, say, “This user dislikes gender-neutral pronouns in English”, I wouldn't approve of it, yet I wouldn't nominate it here either. However, the way it's formulated, it clearly indicates something more than just a stance on language usage. Like the person below me said, the userbox exists only to offend people. —S. Jevtić talk&middot;contribs 19:04, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I sure don’t read it like that. —SmokeyJoe (talk) 23:23, 7 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete This userbox only exists to offend people. &#8213; Susmuffin Talk 06:45, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
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