Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Template:User North Korea

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was  delete. --BDD (talk) 18:35, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Template:User North Korea


Procedural nomination: originally (incorrectly) at TfD. Rationale is "Delete or reformat This template currently categorizes into "Wikipedians in North Korea", but the text says "Wikipedians from North Korea" which is not even close to the same meaning. As the Internet (nevermind Wikipedia) is not available in North Korea, if you were in North Korea, you would not be able to access Wikipedia, making this an impossible categorization. Further, several Wikipedians who use this template seem to have millions of UBXs for their origins/locations at the same time, so this fails WP:NOTSOCIALNETWORK. -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 02:06, 2 September 2013 (UTC)" Ansh666 09:05, 4 September 2013 (UTC) Ansh666 09:05, 4 September 2013 (UTC)


 * If you object to the categorization, then fix the categorization. Andy Dingley (talk) 10:18, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
 * comment See also Categories_for_discussion/Log/2013_September_2 Andy Dingley (talk) 10:19, 4 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep (as not-nom "nom") - I don't understand real-nom's first complaint, really; while current uses seem to be false, there is the slim possibility that we could have a NK defector from Pyongyang edit. Don't think this being improbable would cause a deletion - doesn't as far as I can tell fail WP:UP. Ansh666 18:19, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Didn't know that there were the templates mentioned by Jreferee - in that case, delete as redundant. Ansh666 16:37, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep Absent any example showing that there is a problem, there is no reason for deletion. Collect (talk) 18:58, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, being WP:HARMLESS is a great reason to preserve blatantly false categorisations and pointless unencyclopaedic content. Keφr 09:04, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment I am the original nominator (my IP has rolled over) This template currently categorizes into "Wikipedians in North Korea", but this template says "from" and is used to categorize into the category. So if the primary meaning is "in North Korea", then the template text is wrong, and this is impossible due to the nature of Internet access in North Korea. If this is for "from North Korea", then the MFD outcome should be the renaming of the category, since as is, it is implying someone in North Korea and editing Wikipedia, which makes them a likely North Korean intelligence and propaganda agent. If they are not, then this is flagging them for being tracked down by North Korean internal security, to be jailed. -- 70.24.244.158 (talk) 04:59, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I thought "hails from" means "is a resident of" here, so no discrepancy in that. Keφr 09:04, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
 * It says "comes from" which means any number of things. If you came from North Korea 60 years ago, as a refugee from the war, but are now a citizen of Iceland, you're no longer a resident of North Korea, but you still came from there. -- 70.24.249.39 (talk) 05:12, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh, wrong userbox. Yes, you are right. Keφr 06:39, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete - We already have Template:User in North Korea and Template:User from North Korea. This template does not receive the same maintenance attention as these other two templates, so "fixing the category" is not the answer. The template name is misleading because it implies it is for User:North Korea. Also, as 70.24.244.158 points out above, the name of the template and its contents can result in conveying information about the editor using the template on their user page that is not correct and/or not intended by the editor. This template is a substantial duplication of other templates, has the same categorizing functionality provided by other templates, and creates confusion when used on user pages. The six users currently using this template can instead use Template:User in North Korea, Template:User from North Korea, Template:User citizen North Korea, and/or Template:User interest North Korea. -- Jreferee (talk) 14:33, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
 * In which case delete, unless anyone has a case where this template does something that's not already better and more clearly covered by these two. Andy Dingley (talk) 15:43, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete as redundant to two existing templates noted above. -- Whpq (talk) 15:28, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete as redundant, blatantly false, and in the end, who cares where do you edit? Keφr 09:04, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete; not possible for anyone to use this infobox to describe themselves accurately. Please restore if someone finds some other use for it, but I can't imagine what that would be.  Nyttend (talk) 03:28, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.