Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Template:User no-0

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was keep. Salvio Let's talk about it! 00:06, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Template:User no-0


Completing procedurally closed TfD as incorrect venue Curb Chain (talk) 19:49, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Neutral. I don't understand why we need to have "User language-0" templates to indicate the languages that a user doesn't speak, but we do -- not just for Norwegian, but for Spanish, French, and other languages. If someone can articulate a good argument for deleting all of them, I might agree with it, but for now I'm going to follow precedent. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 05:04, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep - There was no consensus to delete all level 0 userboxes. Though I understand all level 0 categories are redundant (as it can be assumed on the English Wikipedia the majority of users only speak English), level 0 templates are not redundant because a user can specifically detail which languages that user does not know if necessary. This is useful if a user does many edits on, say Italian-related pages but knows no Italian. Based on linguistic relativity, not knowing the language on which a topic is based can drastically alter an editor's perception and reaction to that topic.
 * Also, please use noinclude tags on your mfd next time please, it was transcluding onto my userpage saying it was being considered for deletion. -PatPeter 22:46, 6 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep for this and all similar templates: The -0 templates are likely to be used by users who have names or attributes that make them sound like they might speak a specific other language. There is no other convenient way to communicate to non-English-speaking users of a specific language.  Inter-language communication on Wikipedia is rather important, and one of the first and most important things one must establish as efficiently as possible is whether the people communicating share or don't share some common language.  Also, it allows users of all Wikipedia languages to mostly cut-and-paste their Babel boxes from one Wikipedia to another.  "It can be assumed" sounds like something that needs whom? on it; and, more importantly, "assumed" becomes an impenetrable problem if you have no way of communicating unambiguously that the assumption is or isn't true.  (And as I mentioned at the beginning, it could be that "it can be assumed" by people in other cultures that some user's name or edits imply that they know a language they don't know.) --Closeapple (talk) 06:52, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep Violates nothing I can find, and is used by a number of people. Which, I think, that they find it utile. Cheers. Collect (talk) 21:12, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Editors are given significant leeway when it comes to userbox content. Is this useless? Pretty much. Is it harmless? Certainly. As such it's really no different from a userbox stating that a user prefers tea to coffee. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 12:10, 9 November 2011 (UTC)


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