Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Template:Userbox/ANewFaceInHell

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was delete. Salvio Let's talk about it! 12:46, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Template:Userbox/ANewFaceInHell


My first thought on seeing this userbox was to tag it under WP:CSD G10. At the very least, the weak attempt at humour could have been mitigated ever so slightly by choosing a title and an image that were not so needlessly insensitive. To mock someone's recent death, no matter how poorly you thought of that person's politics in life, is distasteful regardless of the context. Surely basic human decency dictates that this isn't the kind of userbox that Wikipedia should be hosting? My own view is that this could quite reasonably be interpreted as an attack page (and that it is the very definition of a "divisive and inflammatory" template, as specified by the now-deprecated speedy deletion criterion T1), but I would be interested to know what others think.  Super Mario  Man  07:39, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom,WP:UP and WP:Userboxes; verging WP:CSD. JohnCD (talk) 11:46, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and JohnCD. See also Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Setwisohi/Thatcher, in which a similarly themed userbox was deleted. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 13:52, 28 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Oppose and FYI Met90, this is not cf. anything; each case to be judged on its merits. And anyway, see WP:NOTCENSORED, WP:NOTMEMORIAL etc. A UBX is for the personal space, we might find many offensive: but as adults we do not take someone else's expression of an opinion to be a personal attack. Well, not as adults anyway. PS: the dead cannot be libelled; nor does WP:NPA or WP:CIVILITY apply to them. Happy Sunday! Basket Feudalist  17:44, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
 * The above user created the userbox under discussion. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 18:31, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Civility is about what you yourself do and the appropriateness of your own behavior within the norms (of wikipedia, because that's where we are). And it actually is a legal offense to defame the dead in some jurisdictions (sometimes even called "libel" in a law that makes no living distinction, but other times just a more generic defamation). DMacks (talk) 05:12, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete not only is this a polemical statement unrelated to encyclopedia editing (WP:POLEMIC) but it constitutes material likely to bring the project into disrepute (WP:UP). It is not true that almost anything in userspace is acceptable, as the creator seems to think, there are an awful lot of things that aren't. Hut 8.5 21:49, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete as does nothing to enhance our work towards building an encyclopedia. Instead, its only use-cases that I have seen have been by third-party additions of it (usually hit'n'run IPs) to various userpages (where it is more towards harrassment/NPA/VANDALism than a user's own assertions and control of userpage). DMacks (talk) 04:20, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I think it's rather fun. What, too soon? ....thanks for looking after my UP, much appreciated-! Basket Feudalist  20:31, 29 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete per DMacks. Not an appropriate use of template space, and it's close enough to an attack (if you're saying this about her, you're saying the same about her supporters) that it doesn't deserve to get the German solution either.  Nyttend (talk) 04:51, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Strong delete. Not acceptable. Newyorkbrad (talk) 22:44, 4 May 2013 (UTC)


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