Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/TimedText:Uptown Funk.ogg.vi.srt

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was:  withdrawn by nominator. No consensus to delete prior to withdrawl.  —&#8288;Scotty Wong &#8288;— 23:05, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

TimedText:Uptown Funk.ogg.vi.srt

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This is Timed Text for Vietnamese lyrics for the song "Uptown Funk" to go with the song sample File:Uptown Funk.ogg. The song sample is sung in English, and not Vietnamese. As a translation of a copyrighted work, this is a derivative of a copyrighted work and so is not under a free license. These is no source provided for the translation, so this is also potentially original research if the uploader simply did their own translation. These best guidance I could find for copyrighted timed text was this discussion. The basic idea for keeping such timed text is in support of accessibility by providing text captions for the spoken or sung words in the clip and its justification for non-free use is by association ot a properly justified non-free media file. However, in this instance, this timed text file does not provide accessibility as it is not a caption of the actual lyrics. This is the English language Wikipedia, and there is nothing about Vietnamese lyrics in the Uptown Funk article that could possibly justify having copyright Vietnamese timed text. Whpq (talk) 13:47, 5 April 2022 (UTC) As suggested by Trialpears, iam withdrawing this nomination in favour of a more general discussion. -- Whpq (talk) 17:07, 9 April 2022 (UTC)


 * @Whpq But what's wrong when I put it in? Does it even affect anything to the audio file? What if there are Vietnamese users finding this article in English and want to hear the audio sample? Victor311 (talk) 14:44, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
 * @Whpq And about the source for the translation, you could find on this video Victor311 (talk) 14:50, 5 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Just noting that there are 132 timedtext pages with lyrics for multiple languages. This is probably good to have a larger discussion about rather than individual mfds. Also It wouldn't hurt to ask WMF legal if they have an opinion on this. --Trialpears (talk) 14:53, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep this is a generally-accepted use of the TimedText namespace and if this is unacceptable, we would need a broader discussion to establish that. There's nothing specific about this file that makes it unacceptable compared to the others, and no blatant violation of any policies here. Elli (talk &#124; contribs) 16:09, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
 * @Elli Thank you so much Victor311 (talk) 16:35, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete This is the English Wikipedia; all content that is not in English is inherently out-of-scope. * Pppery * it has begun... 18:46, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Good luck at Jabberwocky. Thincat (talk) 21:12, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
 *  Speedy keep No violation to the audio sample, also I've put the source for the subtitles. Victor311 (talk) 10:17, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.