Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Поль Крол Злой Диктатор/Userboxes/Afghanistan

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was:  delete. ✗ plicit  13:39, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

User:Поль Крол Злой Диктатор/Userboxes/Afghanistan

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Per reasoning at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Поль Крол Злой Диктатор/Userboxes/Baltics; Wikipedia isn’t a place for tankies to promote historical revisionism. Dronebogus (talk) 05:51, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Changed to "delete" SmokeyJoe (talk) 06:45, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep : I readily found a source for the opinion, https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/29/us/politics/afghanistan-trump-soviet-union.html -- SmokeyJoe (talk) 06:12, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Article is paywalled, could you paste the text that supports the userbox "this user considers the introduction of Soviet troops into Afghanistan in 1979 as an anti-terrorist operation"?  Vanilla  Wizard  💙 20:54, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
 * WHITE HOUSE MEMO
 * "Why Did Soviets Invade Afghanistan? Documents Offer History Lesson for Trump"
 * By Peter Baker Jan. 29, 2019
 * "Mr. Blood’s newly published cable sheds light on what really drove the Soviet Union to invade Afghanistan only two months after his meeting with Mr. Amin. Spoiler alert: It was not because of terrorism, as claimed this month by President Trump, who said the Soviets were right to invade. Among the real motivations, the cable and other documents suggest, was a fear that Afghanistan might switch loyalties to the West."
 * “The reason Russia was in Afghanistan was because terrorists were going into Russia,” he said of the 1979 invasion. “They were right to be there. The problem is it was a tough fight.”
 * I believe that this repeats 1979 Russian propaganda, also sourceable, to the Russians.
 * I don't agree that this userbox is historical revisionism, as the falsehood was promulgated at the time.
 * I don't that this userbox should be deleteable due to its content being a problem, as censoring problem content is worse than leaving it alone. I do, however, support deleting all of the user's userpage and usersubpages due to the user not being a genuine contributor, and due to the whole collection being disingenuous.  In other words: the user was only here to make trouble. SmokeyJoe (talk) 05:57, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
 * That sounds more like a confirmation it’s historical revisionism. It was propaganda then, it’s since been proven wrong, this ubx is still in denial for no reason other than the user who made it being utterly convinced that “THA SOVIET UNION DID NOTHING WRONG!!!” Dronebogus (talk) 06:03, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Donald Trump is a well known pathological liar and has… interesting views on a lot of things so why his opinion matters I don’t know. Dronebogus (talk) 06:07, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I could nitpick on the meaning of "revisionism". I think we agree that it was a Russian lie.
 * If you want to be a respected Wikipedian, you should keep control of expressions of your POV.
 * If one (eg the Russian SPA user) wants to dispute facts or reliability of sources, I would send them too Soviet–Afghan War and its talk page to discuss sources.'
 * Users are allowed to have wrong opinions without being brought to MfD, in their absence.
 * As per elsewhere, I have swung to "delete the user's userpage and all its subpages" on the basis of the user having never been a genuine contributor, and all their edits indicating that they came here only to make trouble. SmokeyJoe (talk) 06:44, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm also in favor of this. Super   Ψ   Dro  19:31, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.