Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Поль Крол Злой Диктатор/Userboxes/Killed in Odessa in 2014

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The result of the discussion was:  speedy delete.  —&#8288;Scotty Wong &#8288;— 21:30, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

User:Поль Крол Злой Диктатор/Userboxes/Killed in Odessa in 2014

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Created by a user known for pushing Soviet/Russian propaganda, this userbox was apparently intended to present the Russian side as victims in the 2014 pro-Russian unrest in Ukraine. —Sundostund (talk) 00:43, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Weak delete neither side looks particularly good here, and the event was internationally regarded as a tragedy. But context obviously implies this is supposed to be promoting the pro-Russian wing as political martyrs and not show sympathy to victims of civil unrest. Dronebogus (talk) 01:14, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Weak keep. This is per the article (sourced from the Ministry of Internal Affairs -Ukraine): "Later reports showed that none of the identified victims was from Russia or Transnistria. Out of the 48 people killed, 46 were from Odessa or Odessa region, one from Mykolaiv Oblast and one from Vinnytsia." Hence there is no evidence that the people burned that day were activists or were from Russia. Maybe the userbox can be re-worded? - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 15:39, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment Nobody claimed that the people burned that day were from Russia. They were locals from southwestern/southern Ukraine, supporting Russia during the 2014 unrest. This userbox is not intended to show sympathy for them, but to present them as victims/martyrs of a "genocide" perpetrated by Ukraine. —Sundostund (talk) 16:36, 12 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete per Sundostund, the userbox's decision to be in the Soviet colors of red and gold (as many of this user's more propagandistic ones are) isn't helping anything either. This is just one of many userboxes created for the sole purpose of depicting Ukraine as a barbaric anti-Russian state, not to respectfully honor those who died.  Vanilla  Wizard  💙 19:04, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep Not exceptionally offensive or disruptive. Rationale for deletion is flawed anyway because those who died in this awful incident weren't Russians, but Ukrainians. AusLondonder (talk) 13:23, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per Sundostund, this userbox has to go. I believe people in Ukraine would hate this userbox. Catfurball (talk) 15:12, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid that isn't a valid rationale. See WP:NOTCENSORED. AusLondonder (talk) 16:38, 22 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete per Dronebogus, Sundostund and Vanilla Wizard. --Txkk (talk) 15:14, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.