Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:0Bammer/ei


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the discussion was delete all. &mdash;harej (talk) 02:55, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

User:0Bammer/ei
These are subpages of an indefinitely blocked sockpuppeteer that have no value to the project. Indeffed accounts have no use for them either.

Also includes:


 * User:0Bammer/meh/the matter
 * User:0Bammer/jesse jackson gaffe
 * User:0Bammer/wikt sucks admit it
 * User:0Bammer/meh
 * User:Headlikeawhole/$
 * User:Headlikeawhole/agenda
 * User:Headlikeawhole/bl
 * User:Stpuidhead/about
 * User:Stpuidhead/jill biden
 * User:Stpuidhead/worm list
 * User:Stpuidhead/bartlet
 * User:Stpuidhead/n0nsens3
 * User:Stpuidhead/contact
 * User:Stpuidhead/templates

Sockmaster has created several socks over a period of a couple years and tends to make use of the subpages. They are worthless to the project and potentially helpful to the abusive sockmaster. &lt;&gt;Multi-Xfer&lt;&gt; (talk) 23:01, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Can't you just speedy these under G5? Does it need an MfD?Elen of the Roads (talk) 21:35, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I tried that, the speedies were all declined (see the page history of each). &lt;&gt;Multi-Xfer&lt;&gt; (talk) 21:53, 5 August 2009 (UTC)


 * G5 only aplies to pages created after the banning. Are these pages offensive in any way?  I don't think so, and if not, I recommend converting each to a redirect to User:0Bammer.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 23:03, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Why do we need to save worthless subpages of an indefinitely blocked sockpuppeteer? Redirecting them allows him to restore all his nonsense the next time he creates another sock. Not to mention the one about jill biden violates BLP. &lt;&gt;Multi-Xfer&lt;&gt; (talk) 23:06, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Converting to redirect does not translate to “saving” to non-wikipedians. When was the last time deleted pages were purged?  I don’t see any nonsense meeting WP:CSD#G1.  If you think that one “disparages”, then ask for WP:CSD#G10, however, I think it is just low level personal comment that is best treated by blanking, or redirecting as here.
 * Allowing broad speedying upon an indef block, or on citing one of many pages as disparaging, is to push speedy deletion too far to letting admins too easily delete what they want without review.
 * Bringing all such pages to MfD is counter-productive, as what you are doing is effectively advertising everything you dislike.
 * Blanking/redirecting effectively removes the content as far as any reader is concerned, and you can do it quietly, quickly, no fanfare, on your own judgement. If the content gets recreated, then there is a continuing problem that needs attention beyond an MfD discussion.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 23:31, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm not requesting speedy deletion here. When I did request it, and it was declined, I brought it to MFD, which is a normal process. What does liking or not liking have to do with requesting the deletion of subpages that have no value? I don't care whether the puppetmaster thinks I like something or not. I still see no value in redirecting garbage pages to a userpage or blanking as opposed to deleting them. What is MFD for anyway? I thought it was for proposing the deletion of miscellaneous pages. Again, why should they be kept? This is an MFD discussion... &lt;&gt;Multi-Xfer&lt;&gt; (talk) 00:18, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
 * No, they shouldn't be "kept". I think they should be blanked/redirected (by default, for things like this).  However, if you have considered that, and still think they should be outright deleted, then I'll support this nominate to delete.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 00:59, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Hm, I guess I misunderstood you then. Yes, I propose deleting over blanking or redirecting. &lt;&gt;Multi-Xfer&lt;&gt; (talk) 01:04, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.